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The Fury on 19 February 2010

The term 'Global Warming' in my view is redundent and used by skeptics mainly because it snows a bit more then it should and they say "How is it warming?".

Climate Change is the term that should be used because of the affect that many different things are having on the current changing climate around the world. While the overall temerature is increasing, and that is fact, how it affects different regions of the world can be seen differently. Polution by man is a factor.



Hmm, pie.

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FootballFan on 19 February 2010
finalrpgfantasy said:
i believe in Global warning, the evidence:
-the rise in CO2, with more CO2 more temperature.
-the polar ice caps are smaller compare to decades ago
- terrible hurricane seasons.
- the temperature on earth surface and sea has risen( this is what defined global warning)


Why is it Britain has had the coldest Janurary in 50 years?

Evidence to suggest otherwise previously in this thread.

Also maybe its not fair to measure temperature increase by a single month, however, Britian's peek in temperature was the 1920's. If Global warming is true then why hasn't that temperature been exceeded in any decade since?



megaman79 on 19 February 2010

This off topic baiting shit is attrocious.

People can't say its not happening and then say it is happening, and not blame humans, while expecting to be taken seriously.

There is plenty of science to prove it is happening and NOTHING from ANY vgchartz member or random blogger is going to change this fact.

Why don't you people go to 4chan? Atleast there people know you're trolling.

 

Oh and OP - No realistic believer in the science is going to go near this thread. You are simply baiting idiots.  Noone wants to get abused by the triple tag team of CS trouble.



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vlad321 on 19 February 2010
FootballFan said:
finalrpgfantasy said:
i believe in Global warning, the evidence:
-the rise in CO2, with more CO2 more temperature.
-the polar ice caps are smaller compare to decades ago
- terrible hurricane seasons.
- the temperature on earth surface and sea has risen( this is what defined global warning)


Why is it Britain has had the coldest Janurary in 50 years?

Evidence to suggest otherwise previously in this thread.

Also maybe its not fair to measure temperature increase by a single month, however, Britian's peek in temperature was the 1920's. If Global warming is true then why hasn't that temperature been exceeded in any decade since?

I was not aware Britain represented the world... Maybe you are thinking of back in the 18th century...



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FootballFan on 19 February 2010
vlad321 said:
FootballFan said:
finalrpgfantasy said:
i believe in Global warning, the evidence:
-the rise in CO2, with more CO2 more temperature.
-the polar ice caps are smaller compare to decades ago
- terrible hurricane seasons.
- the temperature on earth surface and sea has risen( this is what defined global warning)


Why is it Britain has had the coldest Janurary in 50 years?

Evidence to suggest otherwise previously in this thread.

Also maybe its not fair to measure temperature increase by a single month, however, Britian's peek in temperature was the 1920's. If Global warming is true then why hasn't that temperature been exceeded in any decade since?

I was not aware Britain represented the world... Maybe you are thinking of back in the 18th century...


Maybe i was giving a representation of Europe and somewhere that isn't America.

And anyway, Global warming is supposidly worldwide thing? Isn't it or am i mistaken to think that its an exclusive to the American and British government as an excuse to raise taxes?



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FootballFan on 19 February 2010

I would like to say that i believe in science in all circumstances, evoultion big bang pretty much everything.

I even believe that global warming is graducally taking place but its more of a cycle than anything else, I just believe that the magnitude that its occuring is thrown out of all proportion and humans arn't the main cause.

That is all.



megaman79 on 19 February 2010
Tyrannical said:

I think these glorified weather forcasters should stop claiming to be scientists.

Understanding the  "Climate" should be left to physicists that actually have the math and physics back ground to study this.

You would say that. How many "climate scientists" signed that document, arguing that CC didn't exist?

Not many



“When we make some new announcement and if there is no positive initial reaction from the market, I try to think of it as a good sign because that can be interpreted as people reacting to something groundbreaking. ...if the employees were always minding themselves to do whatever the market is requiring at any moment, and if they were always focusing on something we can sell right now for the short term, it would be very limiting. We are trying to think outside the box.” - Satoru Iwata - This is why corporate multinationals will never truly understand, or risk doing, what Nintendo does.

vlad321 on 19 February 2010
FootballFan said:
vlad321 said:
FootballFan said:
finalrpgfantasy said:
i believe in Global warning, the evidence:
-the rise in CO2, with more CO2 more temperature.
-the polar ice caps are smaller compare to decades ago
- terrible hurricane seasons.
- the temperature on earth surface and sea has risen( this is what defined global warning)


Why is it Britain has had the coldest Janurary in 50 years?

Evidence to suggest otherwise previously in this thread.

Also maybe its not fair to measure temperature increase by a single month, however, Britian's peek in temperature was the 1920's. If Global warming is true then why hasn't that temperature been exceeded in any decade since?

I was not aware Britain represented the world... Maybe you are thinking of back in the 18th century...


Maybe i was giving a representation of Europe and somewhere that isn't America.

And anyway, Global warming is supposidly worldwide thing? Isn't it or am i mistaken to think that its an exclusive to the American and British government as an excuse to raise taxes?

Funny cause another part of Europe had a warmer summer. So no, you are thinking just Brtain.

P.S. For anyone else who does not think their country means the world. 2009 was the 5th hottest year across the board since 1850.



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HD vs Wii, PC vs HD: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=93374

Why Regenerating Health is a crap game mechanic: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3986420

gamrReview's broken review scores: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4170835

 

vlad321 on 19 February 2010
kowenicki said:
Now everybody (all scientists) accept that we had a very warm period in the middles ages.. vineyards in england.. etc etc. and that was followed by a very cold period round about 1600(little ice age).

So if those extreme climate conditions werent caused by man then why does this one have to be caused by man?

There are various explanations, I think having read all of them that "man made" is the least compelling.

We can neither stop it nor cause it imo..... only learn to live with it.

Are you saying CO2 in the air doesn't affect the climate, or that there is no CO2 in the air?



Tag(thx fkusumot) - "Yet again I completely fail to see your point..."

HD vs Wii, PC vs HD: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=93374

Why Regenerating Health is a crap game mechanic: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3986420

gamrReview's broken review scores: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4170835

 

FootballFan on 19 February 2010
vlad321 said:
FootballFan said:
vlad321 said:
FootballFan said:
finalrpgfantasy said:
i believe in Global warning, the evidence:
-the rise in CO2, with more CO2 more temperature.
-the polar ice caps are smaller compare to decades ago
- terrible hurricane seasons.
- the temperature on earth surface and sea has risen( this is what defined global warning)


Why is it Britain has had the coldest Janurary in 50 years?

Evidence to suggest otherwise previously in this thread.

Also maybe its not fair to measure temperature increase by a single month, however, Britian's peek in temperature was the 1920's. If Global warming is true then why hasn't that temperature been exceeded in any decade since?

I was not aware Britain represented the world... Maybe you are thinking of back in the 18th century...


Maybe i was giving a representation of Europe and somewhere that isn't America.

And anyway, Global warming is supposidly worldwide thing? Isn't it or am i mistaken to think that its an exclusive to the American and British government as an excuse to raise taxes?

Funny cause another part of Europe had a warmer summer. So no, you are thinking just Brtain.

P.S. For anyone else who does not think their country means the world. 2009 was the 5th hottest year across the board since 1850.


Yes, the worlds average is getting greater, thats the result of global warming which i have never disuputed. However your missing the point i was making. Just because the average gobal termperature is slowly going up doesnt mean the whole world is.

In theory Europe could potentially go colder. Im not going to go through every European country for you. But A large number of them including England, Scotland, Wales, Ireland, France, Germany, Norway Sweden Denmark Beligium and Holland expierienced bad winters. Wheras as this whole thread has pointed out the USA is suffering from desert conditions/

http://climaterealists.com/index.php?id=2504

Yeah, sure Spain and Italy didn't expierience severe minus temperatures for long periods but they have never expierienced that. It stilld oesnt get away from the fact that In January 2010, Europe experienced one of its coldest winters since 1981–1982.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_of_2009%E2%80%932010_in_Europe#Deaths