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gamelover2000 on 18 February 2010
Seece said:
gamelover2000 said:
Seece said:
gamelover2000 said:
@ Kowenicki

I hope you aren't that daft, just report him next time.. don't add fuel to the fire..


GOD I really sometimes can't stand you..

Hypocrit much?

No it's not, I said I can't stand him wich he will not be able to change in 1 comment.. and unlike him I seem to have a more clear view of things.

Sure he could reply on the red lined text.. but atleast he wouldn't be getting in the completely useless conversation the 2 of you are having..

This conversation we're having is useless

exactly, I was trying to say that without adding uselessness to the conversation.. I failed miserably :(



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d21lewis on 18 February 2010

This is Capcom (if this is a believable quote). They would have charged us for the dlc even if it WAS on the disc. And if space were such an issue, why did they shoe-horn Gears of War characters in there?



Hapimeses on 18 February 2010
KylieDog said:
Hapimeses said:
Yeah, not a fan of this. The DLC will not be free. At all. Under any circumances. Microsoft seriously doesn't like free DLC, after all (look at the trouble they had with Unreal Tournament). Sony may have no issues with it, but charges for the bandwith used (or whatever it is), meaning it will cost Capcom to slap it up, and they won't shoulder the costs. In short: this sucks.

And will the Blu-ray be filled with all the cut material?

Uh... No.

Unsurprisingly, I think Microsoft would through a hairy fit if the PS3 game had significantly more content than the 360 equivalent. Pretty much all of this sucks. We will get half the game for our money, then we'll have to pay much more for the rest. Which should have been included. For free.

Good job, Capcom. Lost a customer here. I'll maybe pick this up when all the DLC is included in a later, special edition. Maybe.

 

All your complaints are Microsofts falt yet you blame Capcom at the end...

Yes, I blame Capcom. They could give the PS3 all the content without any extra cost to them (barring lost revenue from charging for the DLC, but that's the contention, isn't it, as it was part of the original game) by slapping it all on the Blu-ray. They could give the 360 the content with an extra disk, which would cost Capcom a little extra, but that's the nature of the 360. But, instead, they are going to charge us, the gamers. I'm not buying into it, and I am blaming Capcom. Sure, Microsoft and Sony limit Capcom a little here, but not so much that they couldn't resolve this should they so choose.



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d21lewis on 18 February 2010

Disc space was the reason for Super Street Fighter 4's costumes being DLC and Resident Evil 5's bonus multi-player modes, too. Damn you, DVD's!!!!



Dgc1808 on 18 February 2010

Does it cost Capcom money to have data up on XBL for download?



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steverhcp02 on 18 February 2010

Bottom line in general. DVD space is going to be an issue and is a slight issue right now.

Bottom line OT, Capcom wins the award for worst PR ever for opening their mouths. They COULD have released it as free DLC but then how could everyone who says multiplats are good because of dev costs keep a straight face. Its a business afterall, you look for a reason to justify as a business and this gives them a reason.

Plus, not everyone has online access for DLC so it may not be a no brainer to say "hey some of you can have the full experience others not.

Its still stupid on capcom for opening their mouth and definately blaming DVD doesnt change the fact its capcoms fuck up....but for people defending DVD size is irrelavent theyre just pulling wool over their eyes.

It was Bill Gates who said 512 mb of ram was all people would ever need for a PC right? Times change, this is no different.




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richardhutnik on 18 February 2010
Hisiru said:

"PS3 version could have contained the full experience right off the shelf, but it seems I'm going to have to spend more to get DLC that would have all fitted on the Blu-ray in the first place. FFS."

Do you really believe on that? Really? Why would they cut the content from the PS3 version too? Why wouldn't they make the game in 2 DVDs (which is not necessarily a bad thing)?

It's just an excuse to make more money.

Some site is acting as a partisan assault platform.  They have this spin device that is mean to convert the masses over.  Not sure how effective it is.  In regards to Lost Planet 2, there were hints it would just be on the 360 anyhow.   The site should whine more about how the 360 is the lead development platform.



richardhutnik on 18 February 2010
wholikeswood said:
Seece said:
wholikeswood said:
Seece said:
wholikeswood said:
Seece said:
Oh for god sakes, you're so transparant, anything to take a dig at Microsoft.

Blame Capcom if you want to blame anyone, they could put this on the bluray disc and offer it as free OR paid DLC on Xbox live but no ...

It was Capcom I was blaming.

As starcraft said, it's relatively inexpensive to spread a game over 2 DVDs so, regardless of whether Capcom were too cheap to use a second or too greedy not to go down the 'pay us $60 for the disc now... and $10 again down the' road (or both!), they've still compromised the game's experience off-the-shelf and that angers me as I got quite hyped for purchasing after trying out the demo.

This had nothing to do with taking a dig at Microsoft or the DVD format, yet predictably you tried to spin it as such. Urgh.

Bullshit, you only posted this because it puts the Xbox in bad light, you're the predictable one.

But it puts Capcom in a bad light (for being cheap, greedy, or both) and that's who I'm complaing about, don't you see?

(Well, clearly you don't; you have your head down, charging at me - "wholikeswood be trollin' Microsoft grrrrr!!!!111". Yawn...)

Don't be playing all innocent and naive. It put's them both in a bad light, you're one of a few posters on this site that will post anti Microsoft news any chance they get, this isn't any different.

Looking at the threads I've created for the past 6 months, I see just one topic that was Microsoft-critical and that was a hands-on with ODST back in September that described the game as "underwhelming" and indeed the game wound up with a Metascore of 83 (and criticism for providing a 5 hour campaign, just 3 new multiplayer maps, and a horde mode - all for the price of a full game), so the article was hardly far off the mark.

This thread is about Capcom, not Microsoft, so let's not derail it. Chilled!

When you specifically post this like: "Capcom has publically lamented having to cut large amounts of content from Lost Planet 2 in order to fit it onto the Xbox 360’s piddling DVD capacity without the game turning into a swapfest, but promises users will be able to buy everything they cut as DLC" what you write about isn't about Capcom alone, it is about how the XBox 360 cost the PS3 owners a full game experience.  It becomes about Microsoft.  If you do want to quote something, and have it focus specifically on that part, DON'T quote parts from an article... unless you also comment about that part being biased.  You do want this thread to also debate the disk capacities of the 360, even while you deny it now.  Oh, you cloak it in what Capcom says, but you really want that to be a bashing of the 360 platform.  And considering how this thread has gone, you have accomplished your mission.



Wagram on 18 February 2010
wholikeswood said:

Capcom has publicly lamented having to cut large amounts of content from Lost Planet 2 in order to fit it onto the Xbox 360’s piddling DVD capacity without the game turning into a swapfest, but promises users will be able to buy everything they cut as DLC.

Speaking with rag Famitsu about the production of Lost Planet 2, now in the fine-tuning stages, producer Jun Takeuchi complains of the constraints imposed by Microsoft’s refusal to employ Blu-ray; in previous interviews he made much the same comments about Resident Evil 5, saying he would like to see a “complete” version on the PS3…

Did the development go well?

There weren’t any big problems. More troubling than any development problems was having to keep cutting out content.

We included a lot in this release, and by the end it became a battle with the disc capacity.

Truly, we were weeping as we were forced to cut stuff.

That stuff might be available as DLC in the future – look forward to it.

Buying content which Capcom couldn’t fit onto the Xbox 360’s DVD as DLC – certainly something to look forward to.

http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2010/02/18/capcom-xbox-cuts-made-us-weep-enjoy-buying-dlc/

PS3 version could have contained the full experience right off the shelf, but it seems I'm going to have to spend more to get DLC that would have all fitted on the Blu-ray in the first place. FFS.

Oh noes, epic fails. This game is going to suck. They are just going to release it as DLC. My god, they could have just made another game.

Lol, anyways i'm looking forward to this one. Will buy it when it is like 20-30 though.



Legend11 on 18 February 2010

Microsoft needs to scrap it's current licensing fee structure and have one flat rate.