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Forums - Gaming Discussion - 5th year of the gen and CRYSIS still hasnt been surpassed......

Bladeforce on 10 February 2010

ooh more news just in.....good graphics are all the the eyes of the beholder. Do all graphics have to look life like to be the best? Look at the picture world it's the style of the painter that sells the millions not how lifelike it is. If only computer graphics would go to this more inventive way of producing graphics



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Porcupine_I on 10 February 2010

i'm just wondering, because Crysis 2 was mentioned.


Since no console game seems to have surpassed Crysis' Graphic-Levels yet, why would Crysis 2 suddenly manage to do that trick on consoles?



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gwrath on 10 February 2010
SleepWaking said:
arsenicazure said:
Crysis has the worst engine ever. It runs terribly on middle hardware. Bad dev work is bad dev work. Look at GTAIV- its PC requirements are insane.

Crysis has a great engine, it is insane how many things are being calculated. If it doesn't run on middle hardware it doesn't mean it has a bad engine. It's just a little ahead of its time.

Yep, the Crysis engine is amazing. No other game has come close to the amount of detail you can get in one screenshot from it. And no - you dont have to have amazing hardware to run Crysis fine. I run it on what is a very average pc by todays standards quite comfortably. Not at the highest settings, but it still looks incredible.



Bladeforce on 10 February 2010

Rainbird said:

SleepWaking said:
arsenicazure said:
Crysis has the worst engine ever. It runs terribly on middle hardware. Bad dev work is bad dev work. Look at GTAIV- its PC requirements are insane.

Crysis has a great engine, it is insane how many things are being calculated. If it doesn't run on middle hardware it doesn't mean it has a bad engine. It's just a little ahead of its time.

The problem with the Crysis engine is that it doesn't scale back very well. But I think it's more of a choice than bad programming. I think it would been a pretty big undertaking to make it scale back more than it already does.

 

It must scale back quite a lot if it is being used for the console versions in crysis 2

 



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"Hey, Steve, just because you broke into Xerox's house before I did and took the TV doesn't mean I can't go in later and take the stereo." - Bill Gates (Microsoft Corporation)

Bill Gates had Mac prototypes to work from, and he was known to be obsessed with trying to make Windows as good as SAND (Steve's Amazing New Device), as a Microsoft exec named it. It was the Mac that Microsoft took for its blueprint on how to make a GUI.

 

""Windows [n.] - A thirty-two bit extension and GUI shell to a sixteen bit patch to an eight bit operating system originally coded for a four bit microprocessor and sold by a two-bit company that can't stand one bit of competition.""

Xoj on 10 February 2010

its not like crysis on high runs relative cheap hardware either.

crysis engine focus was making a realistic enviroments, humans and animations still don't look as great though.



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KillerMan on 10 February 2010

It is not technically possible for this gen console game to surpass original crysis with highest settings.



Rainbird on 10 February 2010
Bladeforce said:

Rainbird said:

SleepWaking said:
arsenicazure said:
Crysis has the worst engine ever. It runs terribly on middle hardware. Bad dev work is bad dev work. Look at GTAIV- its PC requirements are insane.

Crysis has a great engine, it is insane how many things are being calculated. If it doesn't run on middle hardware it doesn't mean it has a bad engine. It's just a little ahead of its time.

The problem with the Crysis engine is that it doesn't scale back very well. But I think it's more of a choice than bad programming. I think it would been a pretty big undertaking to make it scale back more than it already does.

It must scale back quite a lot if it is being used for the console versions in crysis 2

It's not, Crysis runs on CryEngine 2, where as Crysis 2 runs on CryEngine 3. CryEnginge 3 has taken quite some time to develop, so they decided to take that big undertaking in the form of building a new engine



arsenicazure on 10 February 2010

Well.. you cant run one of the most demanding games ever made on 5 yr old hardware- its just not possible or even worth it. warhead does fix some of the issues and it looks better and plays better too. Im pretty sure crysis would be possible if crytek or EA put their head to it- its not really worth it though. If the game had become another halo- sure.. but it hasnt.

Uncharted 2 and AW look awesome. I'd like to see a $200 PC run those at 720P



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sergiodaly on 10 February 2010
jesus kung fu magic said:
Xxain said:
Crysis is a PC game and consoles still are not at PC LV's?

Maybe im not just talking about console gaming but also talking about pc gaming?

so maybe you shouldn't put in the thread tittle "5th year of the gen"...

until the Bugatti Veyron  there wasn't a car as fast as Maclaren F1... this just means that the industry don't want to do those kind of investments...
until today only 1000€ or more PCs can deal with Crysis in max settings, so its hard to gather reasons to make such investment... no dev studio want to use their engine, that should say something about it...

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gurglesletch on 10 February 2010

It has been surpassed by many games.




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