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Will wii outsell the PS2? If yes when?

yes 83 38.07%
 
no 63 28.90%
 
not sure 23 10.55%
 
I don't want it to :( 31 14.22%
 
I want it to :) 18 8.26%
 
Total:218
killeryoshis said:

I decided to compare the wii and ps2's sells year by year
                                                                                         How much is the system outselling it
2000 PS2                                 2006 Wii                         Lead PS2 2.1 million
5 million                                   2.9 million                          

2001 PS2                                 2007 Wii                           Lead PS2 2.1 million
15.8 million                              15.8 million

2002 PS2                                  2008 Wii                         Lead Wii 5.2 million
20 million                                  27.3 million

2003 PS2                                  2009 Wii                          Lead Wii 8.1 million
18 million                                  20.9 million      

2004 PS2                                  2010 Wii                            Lead wii 13.1 million
15 million                                   20 million(estimate)

2005                                        2011 Wii                                Lead Wii 15.1 million
18 million                                 20 million (estimate)

2006 PS2                                 2012 Wii                           Lead Wii 19.1 million
13 million                                  17 million (estimate) 

2007 PS2                                   2013 Wii                              Lead Wii  23.1 million
10 million                                  14 million (estimate)

2008 PS2                                   2014 Wii                             Lead Wii   22.1 million
8 million                                     7 million  (estimate)

2009 PS2                                   2015 Wii                              Lead Wii   21.1 million
4 million                                     3 million (estimate


As you can see the wii is outselling the PS2 year by year. If wii keeps the pace up. It will have no problem outselling it.

Will they really keep the wii so long?

I don't think so



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morenoingrato said:
killeryoshis said:

I decided to compare the wii and ps2's sells year by year
                                                                                         How much is the system outselling it
2000 PS2                                 2006 Wii                         Lead PS2 2.1 million
5 million                                   2.9 million                          

2001 PS2                                 2007 Wii                           Lead PS2 2.1 million
15.8 million                              15.8 million

2002 PS2                                  2008 Wii                         Lead Wii 5.2 million
20 million                                  27.3 million

2003 PS2                                  2009 Wii                          Lead Wii 8.1 million
18 million                                  20.9 million      

2004 PS2                                  2010 Wii                            Lead wii 13.1 million
15 million                                   20 million(estimate)

2005                                        2011 Wii                                Lead Wii 15.1 million
18 million                                 20 million (estimate)

2006 PS2                                 2012 Wii                           Lead Wii 19.1 million
13 million                                  17 million (estimate) 

2007 PS2                                   2013 Wii                              Lead Wii  23.1 million
10 million                                  14 million (estimate)

2008 PS2                                   2014 Wii                             Lead Wii   22.1 million
8 million                                     7 million  (estimate)

2009 PS2                                   2015 Wii                              Lead Wii   21.1 million
4 million                                     3 million (estimate


As you can see the wii is outselling the PS2 year by year. If wii keeps the pace up. It will have no problem outselling it.

Will they really keep the wii so long?

I don't think so

It might be around to 2012... but no longer.  Even then, the Wii won't continue to sell above 10 million in 2012 and 2011 (if the new console it out by then), unless Nintendo really flops with its next piece of hardware.  I would bet on their next console having amazing sales...  Although, it is possible for Nintendo to support Wii fully with its next console out... but I don't think they would want the Wii getting in the way of their next system's potential.  Backwards compatibility?



IvorEvilen said:
morenoingrato said:
killeryoshis said:

I decided to compare the wii and ps2's sells year by year
                                                                                         How much is the system outselling it
2000 PS2                                 2006 Wii                         Lead PS2 2.1 million
5 million                                   2.9 million                          

2001 PS2                                 2007 Wii                           Lead PS2 2.1 million
15.8 million                              15.8 million

2002 PS2                                  2008 Wii                         Lead Wii 5.2 million
20 million                                  27.3 million

2003 PS2                                  2009 Wii                          Lead Wii 8.1 million
18 million                                  20.9 million      

2004 PS2                                  2010 Wii                            Lead wii 13.1 million
15 million                                   20 million(estimate)

2005                                        2011 Wii                                Lead Wii 15.1 million
18 million                                 20 million (estimate)

2006 PS2                                 2012 Wii                           Lead Wii 19.1 million
13 million                                  17 million (estimate) 

2007 PS2                                   2013 Wii                              Lead Wii  23.1 million
10 million                                  14 million (estimate)

2008 PS2                                   2014 Wii                             Lead Wii   22.1 million
8 million                                     7 million  (estimate)

2009 PS2                                   2015 Wii                              Lead Wii   21.1 million
4 million                                     3 million (estimate


As you can see the wii is outselling the PS2 year by year. If wii keeps the pace up. It will have no problem outselling it.

Will they really keep the wii so long?

I don't think so

It might be around to 2012... but no longer.  Even then, the Wii won't continue to sell above 10 million in 2012 and 2011 (if the new console it out by then), unless Nintendo really flops with its next piece of hardware.  I would bet on their next console having amazing sales...  Although, it is possible for Nintendo to support Wii fully with its next console out... but I don't think they would want the Wii getting in the way of their next system's potential.  Backwards compatibility?

Why wouldnt they support the Wii for as long as possible?

The Nes was supported for 12 years in the US and for 20 years in Japan

The Snes was supported for 9 years in the US and 13 in Japan

So there is no reason to think that Nintendo would support the Wii for less then 9-10 years



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Now the world is weird  and people take Prozac  to make it normal.

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Longevity is not a matter of companies, it is a matter of success.

Anyone who says the "sony consoles are kept on the market for a very long time", "Nintendo consoles always last 5 years" only looks at the surface.

Of course, the two Sony consoles that were on the market for the longest time, also happened to be the two most successful consoles ever, and THIS is why they were so well-supported, they had longevity.

Compared to them, the Nintendo consoles were moderately successful, so they got moderate support, and the xbox 1 was the biggest failure excluding crashes, so it was discontinued after 4 years.


The Wii is the next most popular thing ever, with even more momentum, obviously it will also have EVEN MORE LONGEVITY than the PS2.



vaio said:
IvorEvilen said:
morenoingrato said:
killeryoshis said:

I decided to compare the wii and ps2's sells year by year
                                                                                         How much is the system outselling it
2000 PS2                                 2006 Wii                         Lead PS2 2.1 million
5 million                                   2.9 million                          

2001 PS2                                 2007 Wii                           Lead PS2 2.1 million
15.8 million                              15.8 million

2002 PS2                                  2008 Wii                         Lead Wii 5.2 million
20 million                                  27.3 million

2003 PS2                                  2009 Wii                          Lead Wii 8.1 million
18 million                                  20.9 million      

2004 PS2                                  2010 Wii                            Lead wii 13.1 million
15 million                                   20 million(estimate)

2005                                        2011 Wii                                Lead Wii 15.1 million
18 million                                 20 million (estimate)

2006 PS2                                 2012 Wii                           Lead Wii 19.1 million
13 million                                  17 million (estimate) 

2007 PS2                                   2013 Wii                              Lead Wii  23.1 million
10 million                                  14 million (estimate)

2008 PS2                                   2014 Wii                             Lead Wii   22.1 million
8 million                                     7 million  (estimate)

2009 PS2                                   2015 Wii                              Lead Wii   21.1 million
4 million                                     3 million (estimate


As you can see the wii is outselling the PS2 year by year. If wii keeps the pace up. It will have no problem outselling it.

Will they really keep the wii so long?

I don't think so

It might be around to 2012... but no longer.  Even then, the Wii won't continue to sell above 10 million in 2012 and 2011 (if the new console it out by then), unless Nintendo really flops with its next piece of hardware.  I would bet on their next console having amazing sales...  Although, it is possible for Nintendo to support Wii fully with its next console out... but I don't think they would want the Wii getting in the way of their next system's potential.  Backwards compatibility?

Why wouldnt they support the Wii for as long as possible?

The Nes was supported for 12 years in the US and for 20 years in Japan

The Snes was supported for 9 years in the US and 13 in Japan

So there is no reason to think that Nintendo would support the Wii for less then 9-10 years

Agreed. The only reason N64 and Cube were supported for 5 years is because they only SOLD for 5 years. Nintendo's more successful consoles, the NES and Super NES, were both supported and milked for 10+ years, so there is no reason to believe Nintendo wouldn't do the same for Wii.

Like I've said before, 2012 is a good year to release their next console IMO, reason being that would make the lifespan six years, which was how long the PS2 was heavilly supported before PS3, and Wii is tracking similar to PS2 in sales. Also, Wii should have around 3 more years of strong sales left in it. Motion plus is just now getting going and Vitality Sensor has not even come out yet, which is another potential massive hit to carry the Wii further.

So 2012 for the new console, maybe 2014 or 2015 to completely cut support of Wii and shift focus exclusively to the new console.



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Metallicube said:
vaio said:
IvorEvilen said:
morenoingrato said:
killeryoshis said:

I decided to compare the wii and ps2's sells year by year
                                                                                         How much is the system outselling it
2000 PS2                                 2006 Wii                         Lead PS2 2.1 million
5 million                                   2.9 million                          

2001 PS2                                 2007 Wii                           Lead PS2 2.1 million
15.8 million                              15.8 million

2002 PS2                                  2008 Wii                         Lead Wii 5.2 million
20 million                                  27.3 million

2003 PS2                                  2009 Wii                          Lead Wii 8.1 million
18 million                                  20.9 million      

2004 PS2                                  2010 Wii                            Lead wii 13.1 million
15 million                                   20 million(estimate)

2005                                        2011 Wii                                Lead Wii 15.1 million
18 million                                 20 million (estimate)

2006 PS2                                 2012 Wii                           Lead Wii 19.1 million
13 million                                  17 million (estimate) 

2007 PS2                                   2013 Wii                              Lead Wii  23.1 million
10 million                                  14 million (estimate)

2008 PS2                                   2014 Wii                             Lead Wii   22.1 million
8 million                                     7 million  (estimate)

2009 PS2                                   2015 Wii                              Lead Wii   21.1 million
4 million                                     3 million (estimate


As you can see the wii is outselling the PS2 year by year. If wii keeps the pace up. It will have no problem outselling it.

Will they really keep the wii so long?

I don't think so

It might be around to 2012... but no longer.  Even then, the Wii won't continue to sell above 10 million in 2012 and 2011 (if the new console it out by then), unless Nintendo really flops with its next piece of hardware.  I would bet on their next console having amazing sales...  Although, it is possible for Nintendo to support Wii fully with its next console out... but I don't think they would want the Wii getting in the way of their next system's potential.  Backwards compatibility?

Why wouldnt they support the Wii for as long as possible?

The Nes was supported for 12 years in the US and for 20 years in Japan

The Snes was supported for 9 years in the US and 13 in Japan

So there is no reason to think that Nintendo would support the Wii for less then 9-10 years

Agreed. The only reason N64 and Cube were supported for 5 years is because they only SOLD for 5 years. Nintendo's more successful consoles, the NES and Super NES, were both supported and milked for 10+ years, so there is no reason to believe Nintendo wouldn't do the same for Wii.

Like I've said before, 2012 is a good year to release their next console IMO, reason being that would make the lifespan six years, which was how long the PS2 was heavilly supported before PS3, and Wii is tracking similar to PS2 in sales. Also, Wii should have around 3 more years of strong sales left in it. Motion plus is just now getting going and Vitality Sensor has not even come out yet, which is another potential massive hit to carry the Wii further.

So 2012 for the new console, maybe 2014 or 2015 to completely cut support of Wii and shift focus exclusively to the new console.

Well, with a console as well selling as the Wii, it could get in the way of Nintendo's next system.  In many ways, it seems like the PS2 got in the way of the PS3, and it seems like a casual crowd who go for the cheap console puts Nintendo at more of a risk, although, I'm not trained to make these predictions.  In my opinion, I think it would be smarter for Nintendo to get the next system as cheap as possible and wean out the Wii.



IvorEvilen said:
Metallicube said:
vaio said:
IvorEvilen said:
morenoingrato said:
killeryoshis said:

I decided to compare the wii and ps2's sells year by year
                                                                                         How much is the system outselling it
2000 PS2                                 2006 Wii                         Lead PS2 2.1 million
5 million                                   2.9 million                          

2001 PS2                                 2007 Wii                           Lead PS2 2.1 million
15.8 million                              15.8 million

2002 PS2                                  2008 Wii                         Lead Wii 5.2 million
20 million                                  27.3 million

2003 PS2                                  2009 Wii                          Lead Wii 8.1 million
18 million                                  20.9 million      

2004 PS2                                  2010 Wii                            Lead wii 13.1 million
15 million                                   20 million(estimate)

2005                                        2011 Wii                                Lead Wii 15.1 million
18 million                                 20 million (estimate)

2006 PS2                                 2012 Wii                           Lead Wii 19.1 million
13 million                                  17 million (estimate) 

2007 PS2                                   2013 Wii                              Lead Wii  23.1 million
10 million                                  14 million (estimate)

2008 PS2                                   2014 Wii                             Lead Wii   22.1 million
8 million                                     7 million  (estimate)

2009 PS2                                   2015 Wii                              Lead Wii   21.1 million
4 million                                     3 million (estimate


As you can see the wii is outselling the PS2 year by year. If wii keeps the pace up. It will have no problem outselling it.

Will they really keep the wii so long?

I don't think so

It might be around to 2012... but no longer.  Even then, the Wii won't continue to sell above 10 million in 2012 and 2011 (if the new console it out by then), unless Nintendo really flops with its next piece of hardware.  I would bet on their next console having amazing sales...  Although, it is possible for Nintendo to support Wii fully with its next console out... but I don't think they would want the Wii getting in the way of their next system's potential.  Backwards compatibility?

Why wouldnt they support the Wii for as long as possible?

The Nes was supported for 12 years in the US and for 20 years in Japan

The Snes was supported for 9 years in the US and 13 in Japan

So there is no reason to think that Nintendo would support the Wii for less then 9-10 years

Agreed. The only reason N64 and Cube were supported for 5 years is because they only SOLD for 5 years. Nintendo's more successful consoles, the NES and Super NES, were both supported and milked for 10+ years, so there is no reason to believe Nintendo wouldn't do the same for Wii.

Like I've said before, 2012 is a good year to release their next console IMO, reason being that would make the lifespan six years, which was how long the PS2 was heavilly supported before PS3, and Wii is tracking similar to PS2 in sales. Also, Wii should have around 3 more years of strong sales left in it. Motion plus is just now getting going and Vitality Sensor has not even come out yet, which is another potential massive hit to carry the Wii further.

So 2012 for the new console, maybe 2014 or 2015 to completely cut support of Wii and shift focus exclusively to the new console.

Well, with a console as well selling as the Wii, it could get in the way of Nintendo's next system.  In many ways, it seems like the PS2 got in the way of the PS3, and it seems like a casual crowd who go for the cheap console puts Nintendo at more of a risk, although, I'm not trained to make these predictions.  In my opinion, I think it would be smarter for Nintendo to get the next system as cheap as possible and wean out the Wii.

the PS2 got in the way because of Sony´s incompetence in pricing the ps 3 as high as they did, if the price would have been more market friendly both their systems would have had an healthy life side by side for the whole of this gen so far just as the Nes and the Snes did and the PS 1 and PS 2 did.

If Nintendo is reasnoable in their pricing for the next console the Wii wont be getting in the way their next console and it would be stupid to fase the console out as there are plenty of their customers that will hang on to the Wii for as long as they can before they switch just like any other winning console in history, thats why the winning console gets to live longer then the competin ones because the userbase is more varied and have lots of the late adopters that hang on as long as they can before switching.



Vaio - "Bury me at Milanello"      R.I.P AC Milan

In the 60's, people took acid to make the world weird.
Now the world is weird  and people take Prozac  to make it normal.

If laughing is the best medicine and marijuana makes you laugh

Is marijuana the best medicine?

"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind."

“If any creator has not played Mario, then they’re probably not a good creator. That’s something I can say with 100 percent confidence. Mario is, for game creators, the development bible.