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Oh I'm a little late but trust me, it is easier than it sounds. I am the clumsiest person in existence but I build mine no problem. Everything has it's spot. The hardest part is organizing the cables.

Go for it, you won't regret it.

Also, parts aren't as delicate as you may think, I'm not saying that you should drop them. But they aren't easy to break.



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Ok, so heres my new PC list. I'll probably end up ordering this in the next couple days, so let me know if anything is out of place!

ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM

ENERMAX PHOENIX NEO ECA3162-B-BL Black Aluminum

Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5"

XFX HD-489X-ZSFC Radeon HD 4890 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express

CORSAIR CMPSU-550VX 550W ATX12V V2.2 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready

2X G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600

Intel Core i7-860 Lynnfield 2.8GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core

GIGABYTE GA-P55A-UD3P LGA 1156 Intel P55 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX

Total: $1260 before taxes and shipping.

Also: can anyone recommend me a monitor for a decent price?  And a wireless router? This is gettin pricey....



http://www.guru3d.com/article/vga-charts-december-2009/2

I would suggest you take a good look, especially taking note of the relative positions of the 5850 and 4890 in games where the graphs are steep as this indicates the game has a graphics bottleneck.

Also two things to take note of:

1. HD 5xxx series are DX11 which means more efficiency, better image quality etc.
2. HD 5xxx series support Eyefinity (you can use up to 6 monitors as if they are one panel) and display port for future connectivity.



Tease.

Hey OP, if you are near the GTA area some other places you may want to price out stuff is:

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/
http://www.canadacomputers.com/
http://www.summitdirect.com/summit/index_en.jsp

In addition to newegg being mentioned already :)

Last PC I built I got all my stuff from Tigerdirect, regreted it the day I got my components as the board was DOA so I went to Canada Computers, same board for like 40% less, and the other components were cheaper too for the most part :(



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Epoch said:

Ok, so heres my new PC list. I'll probably end up ordering this in the next couple days, so let me know if anything is out of place!

2X

Total: $1260 before taxes and shipping.

Also: can anyone recommend me a monitor for a decent price?  And a wireless router? This is gettin pricey....

Westinghouse make nice tv/monitors if you can find em, they are pretty cheap as well

wireless router, go with Linksys, Belkin or Microsoft, stay away from d-link and netgear (G should be fine, unless you ant to futureproof and go N - and pay a lot more for it)



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Squilliam said:
http://www.guru3d.com/article/vga-charts-december-2009/2

I would suggest you take a good look, especially taking note of the relative positions of the 5850 and 4890 in games where the graphs are steep as this indicates the game has a graphics bottleneck.

Also two things to take note of:

1. HD 5xxx series are DX11 which means more efficiency, better image quality etc.
2. HD 5xxx series support Eyefinity (you can use up to 6 monitors as if they are one panel) and display port for future connectivity.

That all depends upon what resolution the OP is running. For 1920x1080 or lower, the 4890 should be all he needs. 1920x1200 is a little more shaky, though.

And don't worry about DX11 now - at least, not when the only games that take advantage of the hardware only do so for minor things like tessellated flags. And-and, don't buy a DX11 card for Eyefinity or DisplayPort if you don't plan on using either.

Most people over-buy in the graphics card department initially and then get upset when their top-of-the-line hardware is outperformed by a $150 card two years down the road. Don't be one of those people.

Otherwise, OP: I'd reconsider the case (unless you want whatever room you're putting your PC in to glow blue), but the rest of the build looks fine. I would, however, check the RAM that you picked out against Gigabyte's compatibility list just to make sure, since the GA-P55 mobos are notoriously picky when it comes to RAM.



"'Casual games' are something the 'Game Industry' invented to explain away the Wii success instead of actually listening or looking at what Nintendo did. There is no 'casual strategy' from Nintendo. 'Accessible strategy', yes, but ‘casual gamers’ is just the 'Game Industry''s polite way of saying what they feel: 'retarded gamers'."

 -Sean Malstrom

 

 

Garcian Smith said:
Squilliam said:
http://www.guru3d.com/article/vga-charts-december-2009/2

I would suggest you take a good look, especially taking note of the relative positions of the 5850 and 4890 in games where the graphs are steep as this indicates the game has a graphics bottleneck.

Also two things to take note of:

1. HD 5xxx series are DX11 which means more efficiency, better image quality etc.
2. HD 5xxx series support Eyefinity (you can use up to 6 monitors as if they are one panel) and display port for future connectivity.

That all depends upon what resolution the OP is running. For 1920x1080 or lower, the 4890 should be all he needs. 1920x1200 is a little more shaky, though.

And don't worry about DX11 now - at least, not when the only games that take advantage of the hardware only do so for minor things like tessellated flags. And-and, don't buy a DX11 card for Eyefinity or DisplayPort if you don't plan on using either.

Most people over-buy in the graphics card department initially and then get upset when their top-of-the-line hardware is outperformed by a $150 card two years down the road. Don't be one of those people.

Otherwise, OP: I'd reconsider the case (unless you want whatever room you're putting your PC in to glow blue), but the rest of the build looks fine. I would, however, check the RAM that you picked out against Gigabyte's compatibility list just to make sure, since the GA-P55 mobos are notoriously picky when it comes to RAM.

Compute shader! Its more than just an improvement in gaming, it also makes the GPU more useful in the short, mid and longer term for modeling as well. http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,689924/DirectX-11-Compute-Shader-Three-times-faster-than-DX101-due-to-Local-Data-Share/News/ + http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=9f943b2b-53ea-4f80-84b2-f05a360bfc6a&displaylang=en Its also much more efficient than the Shader Model 4.1 GPUs. Its not just about over-buying, its also getting the required features now which will be used, and a DX11 class GPU is much more useful for someone doing modeling and gaming than a GPU which is just as powerful but limited to the DX10.1 feature-set.



Tease.

Squilliam said:

Compute shader! Its more than just an improvement in gaming, it also makes the GPU more useful in the short, mid and longer term for modeling as well. http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,689924/DirectX-11-Compute-Shader-Three-times-faster-than-DX101-due-to-Local-Data-Share/News/ + http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=9f943b2b-53ea-4f80-84b2-f05a360bfc6a&displaylang=en Its also much more efficient than the Shader Model 4.1 GPUs. Its not just about over-buying, its also getting the required features now which will be used, and a DX11 class GPU is much more useful for someone doing modeling and gaming than a GPU which is just as powerful but limited to the DX10.1 feature-set.

Both of those articles were written before the release of DirectX 11 (and the first is just talking points from an AMD exec). Do you have any links showing actual benchmarks on actual video cards regarding 3D modeling?



"'Casual games' are something the 'Game Industry' invented to explain away the Wii success instead of actually listening or looking at what Nintendo did. There is no 'casual strategy' from Nintendo. 'Accessible strategy', yes, but ‘casual gamers’ is just the 'Game Industry''s polite way of saying what they feel: 'retarded gamers'."

 -Sean Malstrom

 

 

If your still looking, I used Memory Express (if you happen to be in Alberta) and OTV from Saskatchewan for all prices, in CAD. If you shop around you can get the best deals from Newegg.ca, TigerDirect.ca, etc.

Antec Nine Hundred Case $119
Antec Earthwatts 650W $90
AMD Athlon II 620 Quad Core (4x2.6GHz, 2MB Cache, AM3) $119
Asus M4A79XTD EVO (AMD 790FX, PCI-E 2.0 Crossfire, AM3/AM2+, ATX) $142
MSI 5850 1GB $342
Seagate 1TB SATAII $95
Keyboard and Mouse $20
DVD burner ~$30

This totals $957 (before taxes)



largedarryl said:
If your still looking, I used Memory Express (if you happen to be in Alberta) and OTV from Saskatchewan for all prices, in CAD. If you shop around you can get the best deals from Newegg.ca, TigerDirect.ca, etc.

Antec Nine Hundred Case $119
Antec Earthwatts 650W $90
AMD Athlon II 620 Quad Core (4x2.6GHz, 2MB Cache, AM3) $119
Asus M4A79XTD EVO (AMD 790FX, PCI-E 2.0 Crossfire, AM3/AM2+, ATX) $142
MSI 5850 1GB $342
Seagate 1TB SATAII $95
Keyboard and Mouse $20
DVD burner ~$30

This totals $957 (before taxes)

Overpriced ugly LED case, mediocre PSU manufacturer, crappy CPU, and you don't want to buy a Seagate 1TB hard drive (why not a Caviar Black or Spinpoint F3?) And that's just off the top of my head.



"'Casual games' are something the 'Game Industry' invented to explain away the Wii success instead of actually listening or looking at what Nintendo did. There is no 'casual strategy' from Nintendo. 'Accessible strategy', yes, but ‘casual gamers’ is just the 'Game Industry''s polite way of saying what they feel: 'retarded gamers'."

 -Sean Malstrom