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Squilliam said:
IllegalPaladin said:

In which case 64-bit it is!

Now if I can only make use of my 64-bit Windows 7. I'm merely rocking an e2160 and 2gigs ddr2 :P

Lulz! You're actually using more ram with the 64bit binaries than you would have been with the 32bit OS as the system has to load both the larger 64 bit ones and the 32 bit ones for compatibility!

You're well overdue for an upgrade, you know you wanna!

Oh I do want to. Too bad my damn internship is unpaid....

Alas, dual booting Windows XP will continue.



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IllegalPaladin said:
Squilliam said:
IllegalPaladin said:

In which case 64-bit it is!

Now if I can only make use of my 64-bit Windows 7. I'm merely rocking an e2160 and 2gigs ddr2 :P

Lulz! You're actually using more ram with the 64bit binaries than you would have been with the 32bit OS as the system has to load both the larger 64 bit ones and the 32 bit ones for compatibility!

You're well overdue for an upgrade, you know you wanna!

Oh I do want to. Too bad my damn internship is unpaid....

Alas, dual booting Windows XP will continue.

Poor you.



Tease.

You're going to get a LOT of pc for $1500. You could easily do a great build for $800 and have $400 left over for a non-tn panel 1080p monitor, putting you at the bottom end of your budget. I would argue there's little point going to more expensive ($300+) video cards when a $150-$200 one will get you high settings on most games at 60 fps. Use the money you save for an upgrade in 2 years.

The best advice I can give is to go through Garcian Smith's excellent thread for some sound information on building a gaming PC.



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my suggestion, go for a phenom II processor, i7 if u have the money,

i7:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115214&cm_re=i7-_-19-115-214-_-Product
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115224&cm_re=i7-_-19-115-224-_-Product
phenom II
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103727&cm_re=phenom_ii_x4-_-19-103-727-_-Product

id lean more towards the phenomII just for pricepoint

decent mobo to support it heres a gigabyte that runs ddr3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128416

some decent ram if u use the board above id say some ddr3 1333, or if you felt like going overboard u can use 1866

go with a graphics card that supports DX 11, the 5870 is a beast of a card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102872&cm_re=radeon_5870-_-14-102-872-_-Product

and dont forget hdd's u can get a terrabyte for about 100$, and a full size case to put it all in, oh and power supply probly about a 750-1000 watt should be more than enough.



Because you're using your PC for CPU- and RAM-intensive work as well as gaming, your needs will be different from someone who just wants to play games. Thankfully, you seem to have the budget to match those needs. Here's what I'd recommend:

Intel Core i7-860

Gigabyte GA-P55M-UD2

4 GB G-Skill DDR3 1600 x2

Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB

XFX Radeon 4890

Lian Li Lancool PC-K7B

Corsair 550VX

ASUS DVD Burner

Windows 7 Home Premium OEM

...which should bring you to a little over $1200 before shipping.



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Yo Garcian, check out the Canadian Newegg not the U.S. one, hes from there. I made the same mistake too, so its NP to do that. Though, surely it would be better to pick up a 58xx series, especially as the compute shader is relevant to modeling and encoding? Also the price difference is v.small.

http://www.techreport.com/articles.x/18042/6

Thats also a pretty good one as well.



Tease.

Squilliam said:

Thats cool. The CPU as you can see there performs roughly as good as the Intel equivalent however it does use slightly more power idle and slightly more power under load. http://techreport.com/articles.x/17545 it performs pretty close to where the i5 lives.

You can save money with the motherboard, with something like this for example for $90

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131603

Thats the big deal with the AMD CPUs, its not the CPU where you save money, but the motherboard and the AM3 boards can take any AMD CPU whereas the 1156 is more a mainstream platform from Intel. I've used AMD CPUs all the time and they make pretty great platforms for the $$$ if you include the motherboard as well. In any case you'll be good with either system I just wanted to offer you an alternative.

 

Thanks for that, its stuff like this and Palladins info on graphics cards that makes it alot easier to make informed decisions.  It looks as though it would be worth getting an i7 for the extra $100 if I decide to stay with Intel processors.  There are considerable savings with the AMD processor though, and there doesn't appear to be any real downside, except my lack of trust lol.  Thanks again man



Garcian Smith said:

Because you're using your PC for CPU- and RAM-intensive work as well as gaming, your needs will be different from someone who just wants to play games. Thankfully, you seem to have the budget to match those needs. Here's what I'd recommend:

Intel Core i7-860

Gigabyte GA-P55M-UD2

4 GB G-Skill DDR3 1600 x2

Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB

XFX Radeon 4890

Lian Li Lancool PC-K7B

Corsair 550VX

ASUS DVD Burner

Windows 7 Home Premium OEM

...which should bring you to a little over $1200 before shipping.

I've been reading through your thread, it's freakin awesome.  Very helpful, and really made me realize what a bunch of crap the PC's sold at Future Shop are.  Sadly, this means I can't buy a PC without looking at the specs and realizing they almost all contain some suspect components. 

I'll try that combo you've got there and see what it comes to in Canada.  Looks promising though.  I think I'd be better off with that processor and video card, as the 5850 I was gonna buy is too expensive for what you get I think.  Thanks for the help!



If you have the knowledge to do so. Definately build your computer.

Not only can you get more bang for your buck, but you really make it yours when you build it yourself. Especially if you pick out all the components mostly yourself.

No matter how many computers I build, I feel really good the first time I power it on for the very first time, almost like I gave it life.

So yea, if you have the knowledge build it. If not, it's really not hard to learn... especially now adays you just keep plugging wires in until there are none left or all the holes are filled

Good Luck!



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Hobson said:
If you have the knowledge to do so. Definately build your computer.

Not only can you get more bang for your buck, but you really make it yours when you build it yourself. Especially if you pick out all the components mostly yourself.

No matter how many computers I build, I feel really good the first time I power it on for the very first time, almost like I gave it life.

So yea, if you have the knowledge build it. If not, it's really not hard to learn... especially now adays you just keep plugging wires in until there are none left or all the holes are filled

Good Luck!

Haha thanks yo, this has been a pretty good experience so far. I've learned a ton about computer components and after looking at the "Deals" at Future shop and other stores it really made me realize what low end hardware they were hawking.

Definitely a good learning experience!