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ukeatdabian said:

The Wii isn’t clinically dead yet, but its best days are well behind it. Sales are massively down, and with that so are Nintendo’s profits and their share price. So they must do something soon, not so much for their gaming audience and fanboys, but rather to keep their investors happy.

The Wii was always just Gamecube V1.5, it was not truly a machine of the current generation like the Sony Playstation PS3 and the Microsoft Xbox 360. It lacked the power and it lacked the HD graphics. But to make up for this it was cheaper, it had that breakthrough gesture interface and it had a catalogue of amazing Nintendo first party games that were must haves for any keen gamer.

The problem now is that the Wii no longer looks cheap, the cupboard is pretty bare of first party titles (most third party titles having missed the mark) and the gesture interface is looking old hat compared to what the competition are about to unleash.

Now, the people that run Nintendo are not fools, they know all of this better than I do. So it is obvious that the successor for the Wii is already designed, that the first party studios are working on games for it and that production is just about to start. So the Wii will be discontinued with about 68 million units made, it will be interesting to see if the Xbox 360 can catch up with this figure over the next five years.

The new machine, if Nintendo keep to their previous naming rules, could well be called the Super Wii. Moore’s Law tells us it will be about four times more powerful than the Wii. And the market tells us that it will be HD. Obviously it will be backwards compatible. But this specification, on its own, will not be enough to compete. Nintendo need to do more. Much more.

Satoru Iwata is the president of Nintendo and he has just given an interview that reveals much of their thinking. It is in Japanese but with the magic of Google Translate you can read it here. And he says that HD is not enough, that Nintendo will be doing something new.

Over three years ago I wrote an article in this blog entitled What is Nintendo? That article is just as true now as it was then and mirrors much of Satoru Iwata’s thoughts. The key here is that Nintendo is an entertainment company first and foremost, they are not a hardware or a software company, it is just the entertainment that matters. And they use technology and innovation to provide this entertainment.

So I don’t know what to expect. They know that they need to innovate, so they could do just about anything. The only thing that is for sure is that it will be fun.

http://www.bruceongames.com/2010/02/03/the-wii-is-dead-what-will-nintendo-do/

 

god are they still bringing up that argument? i thought it was dead and buried ages ago and it should stay dead.. why is it a version 1.5? what because of the graphics excuse? isnt next gen supose to be about new idea's in gaming enviorment?




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Just read through an entire thread and my opinion is that Bruce is a retard with the reading comprehension and perceptions of a four year old. Worst of all, the actual quote he was ctiticising was from HIM originally. What a thicko!



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Ah, still trotting out the "Wii = Gamecube 1.5" lie. Pity there's no validity to anything you've said, TC, but the fact that you're desperate enough to bring up this old chestnut is just icing on the cake.

The Wii's sales are indeed down, but only in lock step with the rest of the industry's sales: it's worth noting that even in the face of fewer unit sales, the Wii's marketshare has remained more or less constant. This is powerful evidence that the Wii's drop in sales has nothing to do specifically with the Wii at all, but is instead a larger condition affecting the entire market, like, say, a global recession.

Third party games actually sell stronger on the Wii than other consoles, and in fact even make more money. You can verify this yourself, by looking at game makers' financial straits: the few who are doing well are doing so on the strength of their Wii divisions, and those who ignore the Wii are hemorrhaging cash. Ubisoft has been quite open about the fact that it uses the money from its Wii division to fund its HD divisions, even as it claims out of the other side of its mouth that "third parties don't sell on the Wii." Funny how that works.

You talk about the Wii's lack of "processing power" as though the extra power of the HD twins went toward anything other than graphics. This is simply not true. Nothing that any HD game this generation has done, other than the graphics, would have been unimplementable on the Wii. Not even a real port of Dead Rising, not even LBP, and not even MAG. Even the PS2 got similar games (well, except for MAG, but with a similar number of active onscreen objects) late in its life; the Wii could certainly do it as well. That it has not is due to nothing more than halfhearted developer effort, because they want to go where the pretty pictures are.



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There is much to hate about modern gaming. That is why I support the Wii.

(sigh) when will these threads end...



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fail




8th gen predictions. (made early 2014)
PS4: 60-65m
WiiU: 30-35m
X1: 30-35m
3DS: 80-85m
PSV: 15-20m

The Wii isn't even domed like the PS3 (well certainly the old PS3)



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ukeatdabian said:

The Wii isn’t clinically dead yet, but its best days are well behind it. Sales are massively down, and with that so are Nintendo’s profits and their share price. So they must do something soon, not so much for their gaming audience and fanboys, but rather to keep their investors happy.

The Wii was always just Gamecube V1.5,

 

This is where I stopped reading and went, "Wait a second... is this Bruce or somebody?" and scrolled down.

Awesome!  He's one of the most memorable trolls out there.  I'm a big fan of his work.



I wonder if Bruce has a vested interest in feeding into the persecution complex of Wii owners... Still, it's gotten to the point where I just read what he has to say, and then assume the opposite is true. It's worked well for me so far.



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