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Carl2291 said:
angrypoolman22 said:
oh god, i totally agree. the moderation on this site is awful.

Back again?

yea, ten posts per page really sucks ass. i cant take it.



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RolStoppable said:
angrypoolman22 said:
oh god, i totally agree. the moderation on this site is awful.

The fact that you are here is proof enough that something isn't right.

i disagree. i think i have as much right to be here as you do.



You... have issues...



but yea i still pretty much agree that the moderation on this site sucks ass.



RolStoppable said:
Aprisaiden said:
@naznatipis - Other forms of football require tactics aswell, take Rugby Union - you need to plan ahead and use tactics+skill to dominate the game/ create opportunities to score a try. Or even cricket where you must plan ahead how you want your field set, what are you aiming for with the bowling, what do you consider an acceptable run rate, etc.

As for Sports like Soccer, Rugby League and AFL - they also require tactics, its just that the game is designed around both teams having lots of rapid opportunities to attack / defend which makes it appear to viewers who don't fully understand the game that each side is just is just banging their heads against a wall.

Exactly. American football is turn based strategy while real football is real time strategy.

Hahaha, I've never heard it explained better.  Too bad both sports are horribly boring and lame.

Real men watch real sports that require real strategy.  This is one of the final battles from 2009.  There is more action and more strategy in this 30 minutes than there will be in the entire Superbowl or World Cup.

trashleg said:
zexen_lowe said:
trashleg said:
yuck, only a bunch of silly men could turn a thread about mod-banning into one about stupid football ¬_¬;

It's stupid because Scotland hasn't qualified to a WC in 12 years?

no, its stupid cos i don't have a penis.

 Naw... my penis tells me it's stupid too.



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I like the RTS / turn based analogy.

In US football, the blockers block the assigned player, the runners run the assigned course, the catchers too... really the only thinking head is the QB, it's an army under the comand of a general.
In soccer, there are plays and tactics too, but they are not as strategic... however, the courses are decided by the players, the positioning too. You can have a playmaker, but he has to watch the game, not rely on what is planned. Soccer requiers actual thinking.

Saying your godly QB can think 4 moves ahead just shows how scripted US football is, there is a lack of individuality for the players.
Soccer cannot be done this way, a team only runs well when you have players that thinks and analyse the filed every second.

The other difference is that besides for the QB, what makes the quality of a football player is his physical ability... in soccer, there are many examples of physically lacking people that can compensate with skill and quick minds... and these have one of the most enjoyable football to watch (think small argentinian men....).

In any case, having played extensively US football, rugby and soccer, I can tell you that although it's fun to crush a guy with sheer physical strengh or catching a perfect pass, it's much more satisfying to be part of a well oiled play that just came from the quick thinking of 3-4 players. (one could argue that rugby can fit this description as well). Now if you're a QB yourself, then I can understand that you prefer US Football... you're the star and the one that decides, it's fun.



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Hephaestos said:
I like the RTS / turn based analogy.

In US football, the blockers block the assigned player, the runners run the assigned course, the catchers too... really the only thinking head is the QB, it's an army under the comand of a general.
In soccer, there are plays and tactics too, but they are not as strategic... however, the courses are decided by the players, the positioning too. You can have a playmaker, but he has to watch the game, not rely on what is planned. Soccer requiers actual thinking.

Saying your godly QB can think 4 moves ahead just shows how scripted US football is, there is a lack of individuality for the players.
Soccer cannot be done this way, a team only runs well when you have players that thinks and analyse the filed every second.

The other difference is that besides for the QB, what makes the quality of a football player is his physical ability... in soccer, there are many examples of physically lacking people that can compensate with skill and quick minds... and these have one of the most enjoyable football to watch (think small argentinian men....).

In any case, having played extensively US football, rugby and soccer, I can tell you that although it's fun to crush a guy with sheer physical strengh or catching a perfect pass, it's much more satisfying to be part of a well oiled play that just came from the quick thinking of 3-4 players. (one could argue that rugby can fit this description as well). Now if you're a QB yourself, then I can understand that you prefer US Football... you're the star and the one that decides, it's fun.

Someone's never heard of an option.

Your description of American football is extremely oversimplified. Peyton can predict 4 plays ahead because he can read defenses better than most. What they are doing isn't "scripted" aside from those on the offensive and defensive lines. Every other position requires extremely quick decision making skills. For example, a wide reciever on a sideline pass, in addition to making the decision based on the option, will also have to try and fool the defender to have much chance of catching the ball, and if it's close to the sideline it will take a concious decision to catch that ball in a way his toes at least scrape the grass in bounds.

For a running back any number of quick decisions have to be made on any given play. Same with a tight end. Reading the blitz can, to some extent, be handled by the quarterback, but if he misses the blitz it's up to the backs to pick realize that and pick it up. On defense you have to deal with play fakes, options, false blitzes and real blitzes, single/double coverage, etc. On special teams you have all the punting options and return configurations.

All of these are the kinds of decisions you can't plan for. Things that have to be adjust in an instant during play.

Also, I prefer playing soccer to every other sport as well. I just prefer watching football.



Hephaestos said:
I like the RTS / turn based analogy.

In US football, the blockers block the assigned player, the runners run the assigned course, the catchers too... really the only thinking head is the QB, it's an army under the comand of a general.
In soccer, there are plays and tactics too, but they are not as strategic... however, the courses are decided by the players, the positioning too. You can have a playmaker, but he has to watch the game, not rely on what is planned. Soccer requiers actual thinking.

Saying your godly QB can think 4 moves ahead just shows how scripted US football is, there is a lack of individuality for the players.
Soccer cannot be done this way, a team only runs well when you have players that thinks and analyse the filed every second.

The other difference is that besides for the QB, what makes the quality of a football player is his physical ability... in soccer, there are many examples of physically lacking people that can compensate with skill and quick minds... and these have one of the most enjoyable football to watch (think small argentinian men....).

In any case, having played extensively US football, rugby and soccer, I can tell you that although it's fun to crush a guy with sheer physical strengh or catching a perfect pass, it's much more satisfying to be part of a well oiled play that just came from the quick thinking of 3-4 players. (one could argue that rugby can fit this description as well). Now if you're a QB yourself, then I can understand that you prefer US Football... you're the star and the one that decides, it's fun.

lol

Yup pretty much this. You could also add that there are significant differences in how different are the strategies of leagues in the world. I personally dont like the Calcio or the Bundesliga, i enjoy more the English Premier or the Latin American Leagues. That may be biased as I'm from Colombia.

The thing that I dont really get is them calling it Football. Its just, .....no. I have to admit i've never seen a complete American Football match. I do have seen Rugby League and Union, and also AFL, (this rant also goes to aussies calling AFL footie, but hey! they actually kick the ball, not only for penalty shots)



benao87 said:
Hephaestos said:
I like the RTS / turn based analogy.

In US football, the blockers block the assigned player, the runners run the assigned course, the catchers too... really the only thinking head is the QB, it's an army under the comand of a general.
In soccer, there are plays and tactics too, but they are not as strategic... however, the courses are decided by the players, the positioning too. You can have a playmaker, but he has to watch the game, not rely on what is planned. Soccer requiers actual thinking.

Saying your godly QB can think 4 moves ahead just shows how scripted US football is, there is a lack of individuality for the players.
Soccer cannot be done this way, a team only runs well when you have players that thinks and analyse the filed every second.

The other difference is that besides for the QB, what makes the quality of a football player is his physical ability... in soccer, there are many examples of physically lacking people that can compensate with skill and quick minds... and these have one of the most enjoyable football to watch (think small argentinian men....).

In any case, having played extensively US football, rugby and soccer, I can tell you that although it's fun to crush a guy with sheer physical strengh or catching a perfect pass, it's much more satisfying to be part of a well oiled play that just came from the quick thinking of 3-4 players. (one could argue that rugby can fit this description as well). Now if you're a QB yourself, then I can understand that you prefer US Football... you're the star and the one that decides, it's fun.

lol

Yup pretty much this. You could also add that there are significant differences in how different are the strategies of leagues in the world. I personally dont like the Calcio or the Bundesliga, i enjoy more the English Premier or the Latin American Leagues. That may be biased as I'm from Colombia.

The thing that I dont really get is them calling it Football. Its just, .....no. I have to admit i've never seen a complete American Football match. I do have seen Rugby League and Union, and also AFL, (this rant also goes to aussies calling AFL footie, but hey! they actually kick the ball, not only for penalty shots)

It's called football because it got the name for Rugby Football, back in the late 1800s when it was first created. Which, btw, was not long after the invention of Cambridge Rules for soccer. The sports are nearly the same age.



if it's just for whatching and not playing then i can't oppose any arguments to that.



for the history of the name part you can check wikipedia... though I found the english version kind of lacking compared to other languages.




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