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Dodece said:
I think what some view as bias is actually the result of reviewers being fair. Some reviewers are willing to handicap in favor of Nintendo. The great reviewers however do not, and thats the way it should be. Games for all consoles should be placed on a even field. When a consoles limitations limit a games quality that is not an excuse to give a game a pass. Thats one of the sacrifices that is made. Thats not to say a game cannot compensate in other fields.

The Wii cannot push the graphical envelope like the other consoles. Since they have higher standards the bar is raised. Some will argue that the Wii should get a pass, but I would rather see fair reviewing if the game would not be considered up to par on the other two it should be considered as a downside on the Wii. Not to say that reviewers do not equivocate. Saying things like for the Wii these graphics are fantastic, or these graphics are bad even for the Wii.

Further more the controls on the console are also an Achilles heal for games on the Wii. Most developers still do not have a good understanding of the controls, and mechanics often do not work well for the controls. Thats ignoring the fact that your just not going to get the complexity out of the Wii mote that you would get out of the other controllers. That hurts gameplay, and to be honest the gameplay on the Wii does suffer for it.

Thats not to say fantastic games cannot be made for the console. Just that reviewers are maintaining a high standard. They should maintain a high standard otherwise the standards are lowered. That would just be bad reviewing, and honestly Nintendo does not seem to be having problems on that front. They understand the controls limitations and work around them so that they are not so obvious. They understand that their console is not going to be doing photo realistic graphics. So they go for the more gorgeous cartoon like approach. There is nothing wrong with that, and once again it compensates for limitations.

The reviews might be worse, because gasp the games might be worse. Simply making a game on the Wii is no excuse for tacked on controls. Where the controls on other consoles are tighter. No excuse for ugly graphics, when the other consoles look gorgeous. No excuse that the money saved on graphics cannot be spent on tighter controls and more volume in the worlds.

I for one prefer reviews to be true to market rather then true to the console. No game on any console should get a pass for being on a specific console. Developers can do better by the Wii, and work around the limitations rather then ignoring them.

@topic.

Interesting reviews I am still down with the concept, and assume if your getting in huge fights you have probably really screwed up. The goal after all is supposed to be getting away rather then fighting your way out. Regardless I like sandbox play, and tedium is not that big a issue for me. I had already read that the controls have a rather large learning curve.

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naznatips said:
Legend, I don't consider 1UP accurate on Nintendo reviews, but that's because they have a statistical bias against Nintendo games which is easily viewable on gamerankings. Their PS3 and 360 reviews are only slightly lower than average, so they should be relatively accurate. This isn't a difficult concept to understand Legend, and although you enjoy trolling anyone who complains about inconsistency in 1UP reviews, you have yet to explain why people should trust their Wii reviews when they are statistically significantly lower than average.

Hes got a point naz

IGN has what a +4% on wii games compared to game rankings? Should we consider them pro Wii? Im guessing we shouldnt trust theres cause its higher?



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Sqrl said:
@Dodece, so according to your logic every FPS on the PS3/360 should be docked points because their controls aren't as good as MP3? Sorry that doesn't make any sense.

Thats a matter of opinion, and its why his post isnt very logical as well.

Personally some wii games will look better then 360/ps3 games, its choice of style, personally galaxy looks better then alot of 360/ps3 games.

Thats why i dont follow reviews, EXSPECIALLY, for RPGS. Alot of american sites, just hate jrpgs, plain and simple. Look at the game, look at the combat,  if it interests you, then go buy it, simple as that.



                 With regard to Call of Duty 4 having an ultra short single player campaign, I guess it may well have been due to the size limitations of DVD on the XBox 360, one of various limitations multi-platform game designers will have to take into consideration-Mike B   

Proud supporter of all 3 console companys

Proud owner of 360wii and DS/psp              

Game trailers-Halo 3 only dissapointed the people who wanted to be dissapointed.

Bet with Harvey Birdman that Lost Odyssey will sell more then Blue dragon did.

In all this game is either liked, ok, or not liked.

Weve seen 100's and 90's from major sites, to low 70's from others. At this point its matter of opinion.

Look at it this way. The US IGN gave it a 7.7, the AU IGN gave it a 8.7, and they even mention they actually enjoyed it througly more then the US.



                 With regard to Call of Duty 4 having an ultra short single player campaign, I guess it may well have been due to the size limitations of DVD on the XBox 360, one of various limitations multi-platform game designers will have to take into consideration-Mike B   

Proud supporter of all 3 console companys

Proud owner of 360wii and DS/psp              

Game trailers-Halo 3 only dissapointed the people who wanted to be dissapointed.

Bet with Harvey Birdman that Lost Odyssey will sell more then Blue dragon did.


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@Dodece

I agree with some of the thing you said but as far as the graphics part goes that i dont agree with. Even though we have seen much better visuals on the more powerful systems that dosent mean that points should always be deducted when reviewing a Wii game. IMO games that really push its ability should be given the same respect like Bioshock or CoD4.

Becasue thats like saying All FPS should always have points deducted on the console verions because the pc has better controls.



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Lost tears of Kain said:
naznatips said:
Legend, I don't consider 1UP accurate on Nintendo reviews, but that's because they have a statistical bias against Nintendo games which is easily viewable on gamerankings. Their PS3 and 360 reviews are only slightly lower than average, so they should be relatively accurate. This isn't a difficult concept to understand Legend, and although you enjoy trolling anyone who complains about inconsistency in 1UP reviews, you have yet to explain why people should trust their Wii reviews when they are statistically significantly lower than average.

Hes got a point naz

IGN has what a +4% on wii games compared to game rankings? Should we consider them pro Wii? Im guessing we shouldnt trust theres cause its higher?


Please don't make up BS numbers.  It really makes you look awful when people pull out the real ones.  

IGN 360 +0.8%
IGN PS3 +0.6%
IGN Wii  -0.4%

1UP 360 -4.2%
1UP PS3 -4.4%
1UP Wii  -9.3%

Their Wii scores have signifficant (almost a full point) statistical deviation.  There is very good reason not to trust 1UP's Wii game reviews.  Now please don't make up BS again if you want to continue this debate. 



naznatips said:
Lost tears of Kain said:
naznatips said:
Legend, I don't consider 1UP accurate on Nintendo reviews, but that's because they have a statistical bias against Nintendo games which is easily viewable on gamerankings. Their PS3 and 360 reviews are only slightly lower than average, so they should be relatively accurate. This isn't a difficult concept to understand Legend, and although you enjoy trolling anyone who complains about inconsistency in 1UP reviews, you have yet to explain why people should trust their Wii reviews when they are statistically significantly lower than average.

Hes got a point naz

IGN has what a +4% on wii games compared to game rankings? Should we consider them pro Wii? Im guessing we shouldnt trust theres cause its higher?


Please don't make up BS numbers.  It really makes you look awful when people pull out the real ones.  

IGN 360 +0.8%
IGN PS3 +0.6%
IGN Wii  -0.4%

1UP 360 -4.2%
1UP PS3 -4.4%
1UP Wii  -9.3%

Their Wii scores have signifficant (almost a full point) statistical deviation.  There is very good reason not to trust 1UP's Wii game reviews.  Now please don't make up BS again if you want to continue this debate. 


1st off naz, your being a complete and utterless ass as usual, i dont understand where the hell you get pissed then take it out on other people who are not pro wii. If pro nintendo people pull shit out of there ass (countless predictions) wheres the degrading of them?

I should of put the word IF at the begining of the first sentence, and its also why i put a question mark. IM saying lets say IGN is pro wii, would the pro nintendo fans complain? Hes got a point the fact that they dont agree with any site that "hurts" there best games average ranking. Calling them biased, but if a site is pro wii, of course its accurate etc. It works for all fanboys, on all sides and what im pointing out.

Im fine with you correcting me since i didnt say it right, but as of late youve been a real acting like a real asswhole. Calling me stupid the other day for my opinions was rediculas. Go both ways, next time a nintendo fanboy says crap out of their ass, beat down on them.



                 With regard to Call of Duty 4 having an ultra short single player campaign, I guess it may well have been due to the size limitations of DVD on the XBox 360, one of various limitations multi-platform game designers will have to take into consideration-Mike B   

Proud supporter of all 3 console companys

Proud owner of 360wii and DS/psp              

Game trailers-Halo 3 only dissapointed the people who wanted to be dissapointed.

Bet with Harvey Birdman that Lost Odyssey will sell more then Blue dragon did.

So because 1up statistically has rated Wii games less than 360 and PS3 they are biased? How does this prove bias? It just shows their scores, just cause you don't think they're rating high enough on average doesn't mean anything except your opinion. You state those figures as if they somehow hurt 1up's credibility, are they supposed to balance their reviews between all 3 consoles to appear statistically unbiased? Ridiculous. You might as well make a comparison of different sights reviews of Ubisoft games and where you find a difference claim bias...

Those numbers mean nothing except statistics that by coincidence were that way. I wouldn't be surprised if those stats change back and forth throghout the generation. So unless you think every site's scores of games should be very close to prove a lack of bias then you aren't really proving anything.



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On topic, Gamespot just gave this game a 9 so the reviews are all over the place. For GS a 9 is really high (COD 4 and Bioshock level)



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