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Take your pick: Ueda, Cage, Kojima. Artistic Geniuses!

Fumito Ueda 64 62.14%
 
David Cage 5 4.85%
 
Hideo Kojima 34 33.01%
 
Total:103

Ueda is the only "artist" of the three, since he is the only one who makes a game, that is an art, something that cannot be accomplished in other mediums.

Kojima and David Cage make long movies/tv shows, most of the "art" in these games is because they could be amazing movies.
The only thing that Kojima did that can only be done in a game is that scene in MGS4, act 5, you know what I mean :P



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CGI-Quality said:
RageBot said:
Ueda is the only "artist" of the three, since he is the only one who makes a game, that is an art, something that cannot be accomplished in other mediums.

Kojima and David Cage make long movies/tv shows, most of the "art" in these games is because they could be amazing movies.
The only thing that Kojima did that can only be done in a game is that scene in MGS4, act 5, you know what I mean :P

What is/isn't art, or is an artist/who isn't is subjective by nature. If you read the OP carefully, you will see that I said that it isn't just about the rendered images on the screen, but the state of mind. In this regard, they are all 'artists' IMO.

...Read my post again :)

I didn't say they weren't artists, but that they weren't making "art games", like Ueda does, since their same art could be shown through other mediums, while Ueda's can only be accomplished in games.



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David Cage doesn't even belong in this category. The style of games he makes seems very different than the other two...

But at the same time I guess the same could be said about any of the three guys you listed.

Kojima wins it by far though.



CGI-Quality said:
RageBot said:
CGI-Quality said:
RageBot said:
Ueda is the only "artist" of the three, since he is the only one who makes a game, that is an art, something that cannot be accomplished in other mediums.

Kojima and David Cage make long movies/tv shows, most of the "art" in these games is because they could be amazing movies.
The only thing that Kojima did that can only be done in a game is that scene in MGS4, act 5, you know what I mean :P

What is/isn't art, or is an artist/who isn't is subjective by nature. If you read the OP carefully, you will see that I said that it isn't just about the rendered images on the screen, but the state of mind. In this regard, they are all 'artists' IMO.

...Read my post again :)

I didn't say they weren't artists, but that they weren't making "art games", like Ueda does, since their same art could be shown through other mediums, while Ueda's can only be accomplished in games.

And again, it isn't about who makes 'art games' or not. I said that my meaning for their descriptions was about a state of mind, not JUST the work itself. Read the OP again.

In that case than I prefer Kojima's work :P



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CGI-Quality said:
perpride said:
David Cage doesn't even belong in this category. The style of games he makes seems very different than the other two...

But at the same time I guess the same could be said about any of the three guys you listed.

Kojima wins it by far though.

Some of you seem to be deliberately ignoring the OP. Oh well, I won't go through the trouble of explaining it again. It's my feelings on the matter either way.

I don't get it. How could I ignore the OP when it's the first thing in my face when the page loads? And yes I read all....what....5 lines of it?



CGI-Quality said:
perpride said:
CGI-Quality said:
perpride said:
David Cage doesn't even belong in this category. The style of games he makes seems very different than the other two...

But at the same time I guess the same could be said about any of the three guys you listed.

Kojima wins it by far though.

Some of you seem to be deliberately ignoring the OP. Oh well, I won't go through the trouble of explaining it again. It's my feelings on the matter either way.

I don't get it. How could I ignore the OP when it's the first thing in my face when the page loads? And yes I read all....what....5 lines of it?

Then maybe you misunderstood it, or don't comprehend it. I said it isn't JUST about their work on the screen, but their state of mind. Since the OP is pretty short, you could be admitting one of several things:

A. You didn't ACTUALLY read it, but just the thread title.

B. You don't understand/comprehend it.

C. You're looking to cause unecessary trouble on purpose.

Since I'm not trying to take this far off topic, it's not a big deal. I just wanted you to understand that it isn't just their work that lead me to make this thread, in fact their ACTUAL work was the least of it. I did some research and found that these three have a similar outlook on the industry, how they create their products, what they want their products to mean when they're being played, and their state of mind.

Understand now?

I DID read the OP. But you explained it alot better with your last post.

My vote still goes to Kojima. I can't imagine what goes through that mans head. But he is one of the greatest storytellers of our time. I wish more developers looked at video gaming the same way he does.



Fumito Ueda.



kojimia,because I love the metal gear solid series,played them all. lol



GameKabu said:

Fumito Ueda.

Youve necro-bumped over 5 threads in the last 30 minutes. Settle down.

But now that I'm here, I might as well vote.

Fumito Ueda. I've never played any of Cage's games, though.