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Cubedramirez said:
SuperNova said:
Am I the only one who is legitimatey scared by this? I mean the president of the united states of america has created his own news network to spread propaganda.

This is dictatorship-101 and no ones doing anything about it.

Yes because having such a a position means you never paid attention before hence you don't have context to base such fear off of or you're doing what everyone else on here and write overly hyberbole statements.

Maybe enlighten me about the context instead of making vague deriding statements?

I meant what I said, no hyperbole involved. I've found Trumps campaign and tactics dangerous ever since he was first looking to become a serious candidate and have been breaking down how he has been using classic manipulation and deflection tactics, right down to the 'harmless clown' image, ever snce then. And I've also made post pertaining to that, but seeing that the forum is big, it's easy to have missed any of that.

Call me a hysteric if you like but anyone seeing people like Putin, Erdoan and the leftover Kaczynski operate as well as having even just passing familiarity with historic dictaorships can see the paralells here. They almost never happen over night. Someone seizes power through election or otherwise and then slowly exploits and undermines the system until they are the only significant power in te state all the while using extremist, simplified viewpoints to gather support in the general public.

Trump has banned reporters from Networks critical of him from the White House and established his own News Network to spread News that fit with his warped view of himself. It honestly boggles my mind that people are still defending this.

Azuren said:
SuperNova said:
Am I the only one who is legitimatey scared by this? I mean the president of the united states of america has created his own news network to spread propaganda.

This is dictatorship-101 and no ones doing anything about it.

Dictatorship would involve abolishing all networks in favor of one government controlled network.

 

But you know, "the sky is falling" and all that jazz.

I actually don't. But googleing it, it appears you're calling me a chicken. Yeah, this will be a worthwhile conversation.



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Dumbest president ever, those who are still deluding themselves into thinking he is might pull this out of the toilet and salvage his presidency are just going to end up being too embarrassed to admit they supported him in about 2-3 years time.

This is going to be a giant shit stain in the history books, on the plus side George W. Bush ... you're off the hook for being the biggest joke of any modern president. By comparison already you look like a damn level headed genius. 



Have not posted in a long time, but i had to chime in on this one..........

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Also........ #cnnisfakenews #cnnisisis #scrapthetvlicence #bbcbias

In other words....... SCREW the lying mainstraem media.

CNN are anti trump, BBC are anti brexit, both are LYING SCUM...... period...!!!!!



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The official news are much closer to the truth than all leftist media news which are extremely biased and anti-Trump. Leftist media only spread hate and deliver no news and if they do they only focus on the negative side instead of reporting the whole picture.



Gimme a break with the Trump defence force.

Dude gets away with saying shit no president before him would ever be able to say on a daily basis. Enough with the crying and victim complex, grow some balls Donnie. The media doesn't have to be nice to you, if you wanted an easy ride you picked the wrong fucking job you dumb shit.

Stay on his ass CNN. All day, every day. 



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Soundwave said:

Gimme a break with the Trump defence force.

Dude gets away with saying shit no president before him would ever be able to say on a daily basis. Enough with the crying and victim complex, grow some balls Donnie. The media doesn't have to be nice to you, if you wanted an easy ride you picked the wrong fucking job you dumb shit.

Stay on his ass CNN. All day, every day. 

He doesn't get away with saying anything with the media reporting how many scoops of ice cream he gets....

 

 

 

CNN, giving america it's daily dose of propaganda and spreading the values of progressism everywhere. Go, CNN, Go. 



Aeolus451 said:
Soundwave said:

Gimme a break with the Trump defence force.

Dude gets away with saying shit no president before him would ever be able to say on a daily basis. Enough with the crying and victim complex, grow some balls Donnie. The media doesn't have to be nice to you, if you wanted an easy ride you picked the wrong fucking job you dumb shit.

Stay on his ass CNN. All day, every day. 

He doesn't get away with saying anything with the media reporting how many scoops of ice cream he gets....

 

 

 

CNN, giving america it's daily dose of propaganda and spreading the values of progressism everywhere. Go, CNN, Go. 

I think Trump fans mentally block out half the stupid shit Trump says so they don't actually realize it until afterwards, but there was a skit on Bill Maher that was simply an Obama impersonator saying stuff verbatim that Trump has said and it's painfully obvious ... no other politican woud be able to say 1/10th of the idiotic things Trump does. 

The media is not there to be a lap dog for the president. Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, conversation radio which dominates the air waves were all over president Obama for wearing a tan colored suit one time and putting his feet up on his desk. CNN has no obligation to bend the knee, quite frankly a lot of Republicans deep down know Trump is full of shit and this whole charade is going to be a massive embarrassment long term but they are just keeping quiet. 

Fox News would've lost their shit if Obama ever said "no one knew health care was so complicated" or "the White House is a real dump" or "I could shoot someone on 45th street and not lose any support". They would be crying bloody murder. 

Trump should stop being a freaking baby and suck it up. Being president is not easy or glamorous like he thought it was going to be and some parts of the press will always be hostile and GUESS WHAT political newbs and kids -- that's how it ALWAYS is for every fucking president. The difference is the other presidents didn't whine like a fucking baby about it every second day. 



Aeolus451 said:

In the us, it's fairly easy to point out. They like anything progressive and shit on anything the right says or do. They tried to win the election for hillary. In europe, bbc and politicians tries to hide the negative effects of letting in refugees and letting them live in those countries. I would have to dig up stuff for each part of europe but I don't have have all night for all that. If you're really interested then try to be objective and dig up stuff. 

A.)  The media did not try to win the election for Hillary.  The media made a big deal about emails, Benghazi, etc.  

https://www.vox.com/2016/4/15/11410160/hillary-clinton-media-bernie-sanders

This was an older article, but at that time.  Kasich was actually the one with the most positive media.

B.)  About the refugees, I've actually talked to people that have lived in a lot of those countries.  All of them swear that there's no such problem.  For example, one of the big things conservative media likes to push out is "no go zones" in Europe.  I've talked to people who actually live near those "alleged" areas, and they don't exist.  

Aeolus451 said:
Soundwave said:

CNN, giving america it's daily dose of propaganda and spreading the values of progressism everywhere. Go, CNN, Go. 

CNN's problem isn't that they are spreading progressivism.  The issue is that they treat politics like a sport:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pS4x8hXQ5c

I'm pretty sure I just shared this video a few posts before.  But it dispells the idea that CNN is a bastion for liberals, and is actually bashed by other liberal media who actually make an effort to point out its flaws...

Besides that, it's not like Trump is the only one who's seen that kind of treatment.  Who can forget that conservative media attacked Obama because he wanted spicy mustard on his hamburger.  Yeah, conservative media really is the bastion of respect. 



palou said:
TH3-D0S3R said:

I do, I mentioned it in my comment. I don't normally go to Fox for my news feed, there's a personality or 2 I Like on the network but I dont go to Fox constantly for my news feed.

And lastly, those thinking Republicans are the enemy and Trump should be dead, you're the ones filled up on propoganda. No reasonable people wish death upon anyone, you come off as insane. I can sense the shortcomings of Republicans and am willing to call them out on their issues, and while I've never been fond of the Democratic Party, not once did I wish that Obama would die, in fact I wished him the best, because the better he does the better I do. If you seriously think Trump is pushing propoganda currently and want him dead, the next minimum 8-16 years will not be fun for you. While I may not agree with his own news network, every other source on TV is fake at this point, and he isn't wishing death upon CNN and MSNBC, he wants them to not lie about the news.

Even though Trump is making his own station for news, he comes off as the adult when people say I want Trump dead.

If we're honest, Trump is most definetely better than Pence...

 

As a whole, my strongest beliefs on american politics currently are on electoral reforms. A system that gives only 2 viable options for the electorat is kust barely democratic, in my eyes. People feel obliged to abide to the group of opinions of one side or the other, and have become unable to view issues seperately (since they voted A, they feel the need to justify every single action that A takes, even if it isn't part of the issues which they chose A for.)

I really think that it's time that we dropped the terms "left" and "right". Issues should be regarded individually, and individuals should have the right to be judged independantly. 

I'll agree with notion, purely for the fact thatthe landscape has changed quite a bit. I know a lot of Trump supporters/defenders are Reagan Democrats, and let's be honest, the Democratic Party from 2000 is nowhere near the Party of today. How I see it is that Democrats have moved towards more leftist ideology whereas Repulicans have started to engulf parts of the left while keeping their original base in tact. That, and people tend to use the phrase as slander as shut down insults (similar to how Democrats constantly use racist, sexist, biggot, etc.). The political ideology is on a spectrum, some think slightly more left, but believe in a few solutions on the right.

As for the electoral system, it's just fine. I wish Dems and Repubs didn't control everything, but what else is there even to choose from. Libertarians have no motives to vote for, and the Green Party comes off as a single issue party to the majority of the public, which causes a lot of people to not vote for them (something that may become an issue in the Democratic Party if they go forward with the Trump bashing mentality. *Cough Waters, Pelosi, Schummer *Cough).

And as for people coming to their own conlusion, that's their own concern. I never let the Republican Party steal my vote, in fact I didn't like Trump at first. But as time went along I realized that I had a dislike for both candidates, so in order to support one, I had to listen to them speak. As I listened to Trump, he then came off as relatable to me. He didn't talk over me like Hillary, he used simple words to summarize my distaste in Washington. That and Hillary doing the whole deplorable thing really turned me off from her. Point is, I didn't like Trump, but by using my thoughts and hearing them speak, I was able to get the conclusion I desired for.



Mar1217 said:
George Orwell must be rolling in his coffin right now.

He was rolling in his coffin long before this!! Ever noticed that 1984 is an anagram of 1948, the year the book was released? I'm pretty sure that's not a coincidence. Also note that the book takes place in the UK, somewhere that is generally considered to be a democracy/free country. He was a socialist/anarchist himself, or at least heavily sympathetic of the movements, so he would have opposed the American regime much before this event.