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I rank it dead last. Poor writing, poor story, poor villain, unoriginal plot, poorly executed plot and unoriginal generic characters with no soul and forced emotions from Finn. The whole setup was poor. The prequels had way more excitement, better writing and atmosphere.



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Darashiva said:
Still a bit unsure where The Force Awakens lands. It was better than any of the prequels, but how it compares with the original trilogy is a different story.

1. Empire Strikes Back. Still the best in the series, strongest story, best character progression and many of the most memorable scenes.
2.-4. A New Hope, Return of the Jedi, The Force Awakens. Similar in many ways, very strong in most aspects, but each has their own, different weaknesses.
5. Revenge of the Sith. Best of the prequels. Still contains a lot of what made the first two bad, but has much more good in it compared to Phantom and Clones.
6. Attack of the Clones. A few good things, but also contains easily the worst acting and dialogue in the entire series. The only ones who come out ahead in this movie is Palpatine and Obi-Wan, and only because of the talent of the actors in question.
7. Phantom Menace. Just mediocre all around. The soundtrack, the final fight with Darth Maul, and a few nice scenes are the only good things in it. Clones has worse stuff in it, but it also has some better staff, so it just barely comes out better than Phantom.

 

I have to disagree here. It is better quality wise and as a product of course, vut as a Star Wars movie it does not compare. The opening and closing sequence s in Phantom Menace are better than any part of TFA, including the "forced" scene of someone's obvious death. TPM also had better adventure, which TFA failed at.



Cruzer said:
Darashiva said:
Still a bit unsure where The Force Awakens lands. It was better than any of the prequels, but how it compares with the original trilogy is a different story.

1. Empire Strikes Back. Still the best in the series, strongest story, best character progression and many of the most memorable scenes.
2.-4. A New Hope, Return of the Jedi, The Force Awakens. Similar in many ways, very strong in most aspects, but each has their own, different weaknesses.
5. Revenge of the Sith. Best of the prequels. Still contains a lot of what made the first two bad, but has much more good in it compared to Phantom and Clones.
6. Attack of the Clones. A few good things, but also contains easily the worst acting and dialogue in the entire series. The only ones who come out ahead in this movie is Palpatine and Obi-Wan, and only because of the talent of the actors in question.
7. Phantom Menace. Just mediocre all around. The soundtrack, the final fight with Darth Maul, and a few nice scenes are the only good things in it. Clones has worse stuff in it, but it also has some better staff, so it just barely comes out better than Phantom.

 

I have to disagree here. It is better quality wise and as a product of course, vut as a Star Wars movie it does not compare. The opening and closing sequence s in Phantom Menace are better than any part of TFA, including the "forced" scene of someone's obvious death. TPM also had better adventure, which TFA failed at.

 

What adventure? lol. 

Episode I is about a freaking TAX TRADE DISPUTE. 

Episode VII is about the search for the great Jedi in the galaxy, the mythic Luke Skywalker. 

TFA is going to crush all the prequels in box office, the general public is voting with their wallets. Prequels had no believable human characters aside from maybe Palpatine, and even he I thought went too hammy/silly with the role by the end of ROTS. 

TFA brings back the feel of the OT, that's why it's crushing every box office record that stands in its way. CGI effects do not make up for human characters, Lucas lost the plot with the prequels from the get go. He was more interested in making Jar-Jar work than anyone else. 



Soundwave said:
Cruzer said:

 

I have to disagree here. It is better quality wise and as a product of course, vut as a Star Wars movie it does not compare. The opening and closing sequence s in Phantom Menace are better than any part of TFA, including the "forced" scene of someone's obvious death. TPM also had better adventure, which TFA failed at.

 

What adventure? lol. 

Episode I is about a freaking TAX TRADE DISPUTE. 

Episode VII is about the search for the great Jedi in the galaxy, the mythic Luke Skywalker. 

TFA is going to crush all the prequels in box office, the general public is voting with their wallets. Prequels had no believable human characters aside from maybe Palpatine, and even he I thought went too hammy/silly with the role by the end of ROTS. 

TFA brings back the feel of the OT, that's why it's crushing every box office record that stands in its way. CGI effects do not make up for human characters, Lucas lost the plot with the prequels from the get go. He was more interested in making Jar-Jar work than anyone else. 

 

Episode I had plenty of adventure and had many subplots tied into the main story. Specifically Obi, his master and Anakin all brought the adventure and the movie had more mystery to keep me interested as opposed to how predictable and unoriginal TFA was. My brother who seen the original movies in theater agreed about how predictable the movie was.

TFA is about running from the First Order and getting captured a bilkion times, but nice try lol. As if Episode 4 did nit already use that plot anyway.

TFA just copies the original s but lacks the soul. Box office success has nothing to do with quality and eith Disney owning the franchise now o f course their name would make an already popular franchise bigger lol.

The removal of the force history will also make these new SW movies more mainstream. Everything else you said is ridiculous so I won't address it.



StuOhQ said:
d21lewis said:

 


Stilted acting, CGI overload, Jake Lloyd, weird pacing, too much talking and sitting, and of course impossible audience expectations.

 

I actually fell asleep the first time I saw it but I watch the whole series several times a year. I watched Episode I about a week ago and really, really enjoyed it. Mostly, I was looking for "Darth Jar Jar" moments but the movie really pulled me in.

You won't find me defending "Episode I" very often, but the CGI "overload" didn't really begin until AOTC. "Phantom Menace" still had a number of good practical effects. 



 

I know.



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In terms of Preference
1.Empire
2.New Hope
3.Force Awakens
4.RotJ
5.RotS
6.Phantom Menace
7.AotC

In terms of least flawed
1.New Hope
2.Empire
3.Force Awakens
4.Revenge of The Sith
5. RotJ
6.Phantom Menace
7.AotC



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after 4 viewings of TFA Rankings go

1. TFA
2. ESB
3. ANH
4. ROTS
5. ROTJ
6. AOTC
7. TPM



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After just finishing a marathon of the whole thing, and watching Force Awakens twice, this is my order:

1. Empire Strikes Back
2. A New Hope
3. Force Awakens
4. Return of the Jedi
5. Revenge of the Sith
6. Phantom Menace
7. Attack of the Clones



Just saw the movie, and eh, not much of a star wars fan, mostly went for the spectacle of it all, so rating them to me is kind of like rating my favorite rocks in my back garden, just doesn't really mean much. I will say this though, watching the force awakens was like watching a paint by numbers how to make your own star wars a new hope show, calling it cookie cutter would be a gross understatement. The line between homage and blatant fucking ripoff is in no way fine, in fact it's pretty damn broad and the force awakens soars past it faster than a self-insertion fanfic.

And that little force mind battle bit between wannabe-vader and lady-luke was one of the most hilariously awful scenes in a movie that I think I've ever seen, I mean holy shit, even the Vader 'noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo' scene wasn't so hokey. Still, at least it didn't feel as insipid as the prequel movies.



I honestly think it's better just to treat the prequels as their own separate thing.

They're just so radically different in tone/acting/staging.

The OT + Force Awakens are all clearly the same style of filmmaking and feel like a cohesive unit of films.

The prequels just feel completely different, like seeing your friend after they've had a lobotomy and no longer have any of the same personality.

If Episode VIII and IX are also more in the vein of Force Awakens ... then the prequels really are going to be the odd three out because they're not much like the other films at all in that case. 

BB-8 has more personality in the prequels than any of the human characters and the CG characters with "personality" are way overdone and veer into being cartoons.