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Gametrailers Biggest E3 2010 Dissapointment: Zelda

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My disappointment in Zelda this year lies simply in the fact Nintendo actually revealed very little of it. They've been promising it for so long and they revealed a very early graphics engine and near complete controls in a 10 minute demo that may not actually be part of the final game. The graphics look patchy to me (some parts and character models look amazing, other parts look bland) and despite the screwed up demo at the conference, every hands on I read was positive. Given Nintendo's track record with Zelda, I'm sure it will shape up to be a great game. I'm just not in any way convinced it's going to be a massive, innovative step forward in the Zelda series or games in general. And honestly, that's what I was hoping for. There simply wasn't enough on show to demonstrate or disprove that.

So yeah, in terms of Zelda's E3 showing I'd say it was a disappointment, but that's no guarantee the final product will be disappointing. Honestly, I remember feeling the same when Wind Waker was announced, and they eventually turned out a masterpiece and one of the freshest console Zelda games. It's too early to tell if Skyward Sword will similarly wow me as a final product, but as an E3 reveal it did disappoint. It's a case of such high expectations-Zelda undergoes scrutiny and pressure reserved only for the best gaming franchises, and there simply wasn't enough in this demo to meet or exceed those expectations and defy such pressure and scrutiny. Personally, there wasn't enough in this demo to suggest the final product will be poor or underwhelming.



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Asriel said:

My disappointment in Zelda this year lies simply in the fact Nintendo actually revealed very little of it. They've been promising it for so long and they revealed a very early graphics engine and near complete controls in a 10 minute demo that may not actually be part of the final game. The graphics look patchy to me (some parts and character models look amazing, other parts look bland) and despite the screwed up demo at the conference, every hands on I read was positive. Given Nintendo's track record with Zelda, I'm sure it will shape up to be a great game. I'm just not in any way convinced it's going to be a massive, innovative step forward in the Zelda series or games in general. And honestly, that's what I was hoping for. There simply wasn't enough on show to demonstrate or disprove that.

So yeah, in terms of Zelda's E3 showing I'd say it was a disappointment, but that's no guarantee the final product will be disappointing. Honestly, I remember feeling the same when Wind Waker was announced, and they eventually turned out a masterpiece and one of the freshest console Zelda games. It's too early to tell if Skyward Sword will similarly wow me as a final product, but as an E3 reveal it did disappoint. It's a case of such high expectations-Zelda undergoes scrutiny and pressure reserved only for the best gaming franchises, and there simply wasn't enough in this demo to meet or exceed those expectations and defy such pressure and scrutiny. Personally, there wasn't enough in this demo to suggest the final product will be poor or underwhelming.


Okay, that's a good reason. We were expecting something like, I don't know, a full blown preview of the game, and we largely got a proof of concept.

Although in practical terms, the latter is much better when looked at angles other than hype.



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Kage848 said:

I been saying for a while now Zelda needs to be changed drasticly, in some way.

The old Zelda fans will rage and piss and moan but who cares, these are the same fans bitching about the recent Zeldas anyways.

If they make the same Zelda over and over its stale and if they change it then its no longer Zelda and people rage.

I say change it up. I want a Zelda II type change and to hell with the fanboys.

out of curiosity, what kind of "drastic change" do you recomend for this series?

OT: it figures doesnt it? its a zelda game. of course they were gonna try to find virtually every reason to not like the game. graphics were just their main choice. of course i have heard that same complaint *cough*wind waker*cough* so -1 for unoriginality.

amazing motion controls, cool art style, and new and interesting items that more than make up for anything that might have been disappointing IMO. i was only dissapointed in the onstage demo.



                                                                                                  
im_sneaky said:

They should have shown a cutscene, or a more cinematic trailer... I don't know what they were thinking.

I think people are underestimating this point. 

Nintendo chose to go with a gameplay demo specifically with the intent of demoing the controls.  That's great for anyone who went hands-on but there are many people (i.e. the entire internetz) who didn't have that opportunity.  The only other thing people have to go on is the look of the game and lets say that the look has, at the least, raised some eyebrows.

Therefore most people are left to form impressions based on a hands-on demo that they didn't go hands-on with  and a questionable (according to some) artstyle.  Without a trailer or at least more details of the story, some other areas in the game, characters etc. we are left with no sense or feel for what the new Zelda is going to be like.

I have faith that it will still be an incredible game but I can understand why people would say the E3 showing was disappointing.

Edit: I didn't see Asriel's post until after I typed mine, but pretty much what he said.





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hsrob said:
im_sneaky said:

They should have shown a cutscene, or a more cinematic trailer... I don't know what they were thinking.

I think people are underestimating this point. 

Nintendo chose to go with a gameplay demo specifically with the intent of demoing the controls.  That's great for anyone who went hands-on but there are many people (i.e. the entire internetz) who didn't have that opportunity.  The only other thing people have to go on is the look of the game and lets say that the look has, at the least, raised some eyebrows.

Therefore most people are left to form impressions based on a hands-on demo that they didn't go hands-on with  and a questionable (according to some) artstyle.  Without a trailer or at least more details of the story, some other areas in the game, characters etc. we are left with no sense or feel for what the new Zelda is going to be like.

I have faith that it will still be an incredible game but I can understand why people would say the E3 showing was disappointing.


Exactly.  The only reason the Twilight Princess unveiling was so epic was because of the amazing trailer, and more importantly, they way it was introduced.

This time Nintendo was just like "ok so here's Zelda" and started playing.  It was a shock that they approached it so cadidly, but it wasn't very effective for building up hype.

From what we actually saw of the game, however, it looks better than any Zelda we've seen yet!



i disagree



makingmusic476 said:
hsrob said:
im_sneaky said:

They should have shown a cutscene, or a more cinematic trailer... I don't know what they were thinking.

I think people are underestimating this point. 

Nintendo chose to go with a gameplay demo specifically with the intent of demoing the controls.  That's great for anyone who went hands-on but there are many people (i.e. the entire internetz) who didn't have that opportunity.  The only other thing people have to go on is the look of the game and lets say that the look has, at the least, raised some eyebrows.

Therefore most people are left to form impressions based on a hands-on demo that they didn't go hands-on with  and a questionable (according to some) artstyle.  Without a trailer or at least more details of the story, some other areas in the game, characters etc. we are left with no sense or feel for what the new Zelda is going to be like.

I have faith that it will still be an incredible game but I can understand why people would say the E3 showing was disappointing.


Exactly.  The only reason the Twilight Princess unveiling was so epic was because of the amazing trailer, and more importantly, they way it was introduced.

This time Nintendo was just like "ok so here's Zelda" and started playing.  It was a shock that they approached it so cadidly, but it wasn't very effective for building up hype.

From what we actually saw of the game, however, it looks better than any Zelda we've seen yet!


And yet Twilight Princess sold well, but not so well in Japan (and Nintendo is not going to just ignore that despite the total sales), not to mention Nintendo is about release quality, not hype. That's why they care more about legs for their games than opening weeks.



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

TX109 said:
Kage848 said:

I been saying for a while now Zelda needs to be changed drasticly, in some way.

The old Zelda fans will rage and piss and moan but who cares, these are the same fans bitching about the recent Zeldas anyways.

If they make the same Zelda over and over its stale and if they change it then its no longer Zelda and people rage.

I say change it up. I want a Zelda II type change and to hell with the fanboys.

out of curiosity, what kind of "drastic change" do you recomend for this series?

OT: it figures doesnt it? its a zelda game. of course they were gonna try to find virtually every reason to not like the game. graphics were just their main choice. of course i have heard that same complaint *cough*wind waker*cough* so -1 for unoriginality.

amazing motion controls, cool art style, and new and interesting items that more than make up for anything that might have been disappointing IMO. i was only dissapointed in the onstage demo.

I don't have an answer for that. I'm not a game designer. Most of the time I don't know what I like till I play it lol.

But I'll tell you this. Doing the same thing over and over is getting old to me. I have played Zelda 1 like 5 times now. Change it up or let it die.



So everything they showed in the demo world-wise won't be in the final game?

 

Odd, but a good way to avoid spoilage.



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