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Barozi on 13 July 2008
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shio said:

mrstickball said:

And how many of these aforementioned games are MMOs? I am sure that if you like MMORPGs, the PC is the platform of choice. Unfortunately, last I checked, Tabula Rasa, LOTR: SoA, DR and Pirates are all MMOs, and not traditional RPGs. So then you have just the Witcher, NWN, Titan Quest, and Spellforce for traditional signle-player RPGs.

So an RPG needs to be traditional in order to be considered an RPG? Oh god please forgive developers for wanting to branch out a genre through innovative projects!!! I guess we should criticise the SRPGs, ARPGs and CORPGs next because they're not traditionals....

MMORPGS have existed for almost 15 years, and multiplayer rpgs have existed since the 80's. MMORPG deserves to called a sub-genre of RPG.

And as I said before, PC had 35 games over 70%, while X360 only had 9. Even if we go by your (wrong) assumption to remove MMORPGs and even expansions, it would still leave atleast the double of X360's titles.

Well I counted 14 Xbox 360 RPGs over 70%. But it has just started with RPG domination so let's wait.


I won't argue that. But again, a $1000 PC would play them OK, and it's still $600 more than a X360.

600$ that you will easily retrieve from buying the cheaper PC games.

how many games will you buy. 60 ?!?!?!? That's very much for a normal gamer. Also nobody would think about that before xDDD


My point was/is that you can list a few piecemeal exclusives like the Sims or Spore, but console-side exclusives are far more prolific at this point in time. Remember when every good RTS, FPS, or Western RPG was exclusive to the PC? That was years ago. Now we see every RTS being on the X360, most major WRPGs, and every FPS being on the X360 or PS3. The PC has utterly failed at keeping it's market. Left 4 Dead, a game that would easily of been a PC exclusive 4 years ago is going to launch day-and-date on my 360. All the while we've seen a "few" console games go PC-side, and usually with little fanfare, or care.

Name me 1 Console game that is as big as The Sims 3? Almost every game. Hell it's just Sims. Nobody but kids and girls care about that. (no offense to older male gamers, who like the Sims series) Just 1... there's none. You may say that console games are more profitable, but the truth is most of the times is just because you gang up ALL Console versions (which is something I never understod, since PC itself is just 1 platform). HAHAHA !!! You've got to be kidding me.

Another important thing you missed is that.... how many good exclusives are there in each console compared to last generation? I can tell you: barely any!

Wow you compare the beginning of this with the whole last generation xDDDD

Wii : Lots of exclusives and the traditional Nintendo games, but 80% of third party support is just complete crap. Very, very few good games are on Wii, and most third party developers are still using the Wii as a cash-cow and not giving a decent backup to the console. Still the best selling console and the big Nintendo games are as good as always

X360: Good exclusives from MS, but there is a chance that most of their great exclusives end up on PC. In terms of third party support... it's lacking, very lacking since almost all of it goes to another platform (PS3 and/or PC). Well that's true. Lucky guy, that Microsoft has so much love for PC gamers ;)

PS3: Almost no exclusives, and pretty much all third party support goes to other platforms too.

Oh I think they have many exclusives

 

mrstickball said:

PC also gets great FPS, but the best part is that I won't play with a gamepad (Kb+M ftw).

Haha ! Tell that my brother. He is a hardcore PC gamer and then he bought a 360, played every good shooter and now he has upgraded his computer and he is still playing the games on his 360. but when he plays Bioshock, CoD4 and Gears of War, he first plugs the 360 controller into his PC :P

I also prefer playing FPS with controller. I'm not that accuracy, but it's more fun IMO.

Technology is getting cheaper, and the entry point on gaming PCs is indeed better, but technology in consoles is far more capible, and viable for long-term market strategies for companies.And look at what the top games are for each medium:PC:World of WarcraftXbox 360:Halo 3The difference? WoW is a 5 year old game with atrocious graphics that get installed on 5 CDs.

World of Warcraft is a far better game than Halo 3 ever was. WoW has atrocious graphics? They're not powerful, but just like any other Blizzard game, the art style is incredibly appealing, and it's getting a visual upgrade this year too (an always improving game). Oh and you don't need a disc in the drive to play WoW, unlike Halo 3....

Ooooh that's your personal opinion. Mine is, that WoW is a horrible game and the "art style" is damn ugly. Graphic update ? Wow maybe we could compare it one day with GTA 3...

Another personal opinion. For me it's: Disc into drive >>>>>>>>>> installing or even downloading

Halo 3 is a top-notch FPS with high-end graphics. One can easily see that with the implosion we've seen on PC game sales where things are ending up: visually stunning games like MGS4, Halo, Gears, and the like are multi-million sellers. On PC, you either have to be an MMO or something like the Princess Bride game to do well in the market. I know this because I work for a PC gaming company. Guess which way we're going? Catering to lower-specced PCs, because that's the only market that's viable anymore. Being able to run a FPS like our recent Tribes sequel, Fallen Empire: Legions on an achient laptop computer makes you far more money than a Crysis that can be run on 15% of PCs. Thats why you see games like Trackmainia, Galactic Civs, Eschalon, WOW and other, lower-specced games getting pushed at lower price points: it's all that the typical PC gamer can afford to buy, and run on their PCs.

Halo 3 has high end graphics? A 400$ PC makes better visuals than that.

That's the proof for me, that you've never played Halo 3 and you know nothing about it. The Lights effects are for me the best I've seen in my life and I've played Crysis with the highest settings with DirectX 10, so I know what I'm talking about. FACT: Halo 3 has great graphics.

About Crysis, for a game that some people said could only run on 5% on PCs and wouldn't even sell 500k, and still blew EA's expectations and sold 1.5 millions Without almost any distribution in digital services...

I also know some people, who said the opposite. In reality it's more like: Only 5% on the highest settings. Anything below 1 million would have been a huge dissapointment for EA.