When will the Switch pass 160M?

[Fight-the-Streets]

XtremeBG said:

Fight-the-Streets said:

Yes, that was always the common argument here on VGChartz: if the PS2 had reached the 160 million mark, Sony would have communicated it. Therefore, we assumed that the definitive final number had to be below 160 million.

On the other hand, you could naturally also argue that at that point in time—with the successor's successor, the PS4, coming to market soon—the PS2 simply wasn't relevant enough anymore for such a press release, or that it might have cast a poor light on the much slower-selling PS3.

For me, the decisive factor is also what exactly Sony counts as sell-in for the PS2. That could be the reason why the PS2 might not have actually shipped 160 million units to the market.

But then again. Out of all possible months and years from 2013 until end of 2024, they will choose exactly the moment when it was clear that Switch has a real chance, and indeed passed the 155M number. Let's say you are right, and this might be indeed be the real reason. Why not announce that milestone in let's say 2015, when PS3 was behind them ? Why not announce it in 2017 ? why not announce it in 2019 when there was 25 year anniversary of the Playstation ? And when they announced then the 500M sold units, and with that they also updated their PS3 numbers to 87.4M? Why not in any other possible moment between than and 2024 ? The whole thing is very suspicious. And with my previous post, I am not saying it's 100% impossible for them to really have reached 160M. I just say it's not likely given those circumstances, and also no explanation has been given about all of this .. Anyway, one thing is for sure, Switch needs to reach and pass 160M, in order to be the undisputed best selling console .. or maybe 160.1M to shut almost all of the resistance, on the PS2 side (some small portion will still be there keeping to the produced 160.63M number).. unless Sony be a "man" and come out and say " this is the shipment number, this is the number of repair units, by that date ". Really, there was other way, if they so much want the number 1 spot for sales. They could be a real "man" and simply put all their powers and money into the PS5, and make it pass through the 160M. Eat all the loses, and in 2025 instead of increasing the prices 3 times, they could say " No! We won't go that way, we will stick to the old tradition console way, no matter what is the cost, we will eat it all, in order to sell as much as possible, and keep the tradition console lifecycle, and screw the economy" and drop the original launch price by 100$, and then drop it by another 100$ in let's say 2027. Yes it's not very smart, given the bigger expenses than any other time, but this is the way you earn respect, not by inflating some 15 years old numbers from the dead corpse.. 

Cuz honestly, given how well PS5 is doing, and how is almost on par with the PS4, with 3 price hikes, and generation without true games for it (almost all are cross gen), if we took out the price hikes 130M are the floor. And if we put 2 price cuts the way it should've been, and releasing a successor in 2028, giving PS5 8 years as a major console, 160M would be a real possibility for it. And this was the way Sony should've gone if their 1st place for sales is so precious .. not with the way they actually went.

Yes, you're right, there were enough venues in the past where Sony could have celebrated the 160mil. milestone.

Bye the way, if Sony wouldn't have been forced to cut the legs of the PS4 (because of the shortages of components during Covid-19), I personally think it could have reached 138mil. with an optimal outcome of reaching and even surpassing the 140mil. mark.