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Otter said:

This is a conspiracy though. The industry didn't kill DVDs/Blueray/CDs...  Consumers did. No one buys music any more because the abundance of streaming is easier and more flexible. When iTunes dropped people stopped buying CDs. When Spotify dropped people stopped buying digital music and instead streamed it.

A lot of these things are singularities because human behaviour typically leans in the direction of convenience & abundance.

I think People really ought to focus attention on digital rights management/regulation etc instead of hoping they die or shouting into a cloud.

I do think there is hope in that physical things become novel again (see Vinyl) etc 

Consumers didn't ask for DVD or Bluray. They didn't ask for HD or 4k. They didn't ask for self driving cars or vehicle entertainment subscriptions.

The industry thought these things up and offered them. The majority either followed suit, or the industry pushed hard enough that they created enough inconvenience with the old way, that the new way became more convenient, to the point of no longer offering the old stuff so you have to buy the new stuff.

It's absolutely happening. It's just been going on long enough that it's becoming the 'new normal', so many don't realize it

I'm sorry but this a bad take. As far the core logic goes you literally wouldn't have music, films, games or sports if you first needed consumers to "invent" the thing that they go on to consume. In real terms the "industry" you're referring to is actually just creators, and they go on to find audiences for the things they create. If it is not wanted then there is no audience and it fails (see any technological or artistic flop like Apple Vision Pro or Virtual Boy etc). If we defer to only what we individually create then why not just go back to being hunter gatherers lol... And nothing of apparent value will be lost because these creations which you're claiming are just pushed from "industry" shouldn't exist in the first place

As far as these things not being wanted, its simply false. If you went to the 90s and told someone who had to manually carry individual music CDs around with them a backpack, that they could instead have 1000s of songs in a device that fits in their pocket, they would jump at the chance. If you told someone their brick of a CTR could be made into a slim line screen twice as big and a fraction of the weight, they would swap it in a heartbeat.

There is an argument in specific instances about regulations or monopolies restricting access/limiting delivery methods of certain experiences but we're really not dealing with that in these cases. No one made people give up physical CDs for their Ipods. No one made people abandon their ipods once they had their smart phones. Spotify did not make people abandon their itunes. You have to be honest and reflective about human behaviour otherwise you're to have a very warped perception of the truth.

If you want to revert the direction of things you're going to have to change the minds & attitudes of people, not the corporations. 

Last edited by Otter - on 02 July 2026