CaptainExplosion said:
Zkuq said:
...I guess that complicates things a bit, or maybe even more than just a bit. Anyway, for online interaction (social media etc.), I think there's two approaches: - What you've been doing. I fear it might result in a bit of an echo chamber thing, where people who already agree with you will support you. You might be able to convince people on the fence, but it's probably harder to convince anyone not already leaning your way. I don't think this is an approach without its merits, but it's good to realize that it has its limits too.
- Try to find common ground, then discuss about the disagreements and see if that might result in the other party changing their mind. It's probably more time-consuming and possibly thankless, because you won't be able to convince many to join your cause - but you might get the occasional victory every now and then, depending on the quality of your arguments. My reasoning for this approach is that the other party is probably more open to your argument if you show understanding for their position instead of starting out with a conflict approach.
Or you could do both: pick one based on the situation. And actually the same probably goes in the real world as well and not just online. I don't know if this is any help, but it's food for thought. |
I'd like AI companies to find common ground with the rest of us, but they're too greedy and ignorant to listen. |
Personally I think the way things are going is a result of how our society is organized in general, capitalism/free market in particular. Companies have little to no incentive to behave differently from how they're behaving now. Some key points of mine about what could or ideally should be changed:
- Set up proper rules for gathering training data and enforce them - even retroactively. This is my main issue with AI: in many situations, training data has been gathered in dubious ways, possibly violating copyright. Realistically this is probably not ever getting fixed, at least retroactively, unless some major societal changes come to be (e.g. revolutions).
- Environmental impact should be controlled with environmental legislation. I don't think AI needs any special rules - laws should be good enough to cover data centers without being targeted at AI specifically.
- Welfare of people should be ensured even when jobs are made redundant by AI.
- As a somewhat related point, culture (mostly different kinds of art, I'm guessing?) should be supported more strongly if it's weakened too much by increase AI usage.
