Microsoft’s 3 billion bet on Copilot is assessed to be a disaster

[Norion]

curl-6 said:

Norion said:

The thing I posted earlier shows this isn't the case. It used reasoning to disprove something mathematicians believed for close to a century and produced an original idea that has advanced the field of mathematics which is a huge deal. I really think you're not up to date on just how capable state of the art 2026 models are. There's a significant gap between them and the best stuff from a year ago and a big gap between them and the free stuff. They're absolutely capable of producing original ideas now so the idea they just remix and regurgitate their training idea is outdated. 

Finding patterns and drawing conclusions in numerical data isn't forming an original idea, it's data in, data out. There's no "reasoning" involved, the model isn't really thinking.

But it wasn't in any data since no mathematicians had been able to come to that conclusion so not only did it produce something original for the field of mathematics, it's so advanced that only full on PHD level experts in math would be able to produce something that high quality. I understand scepticism here since it sounds wild but there is actually reasoning involved.

They don't just predict what the next thing is supposed to be, nowadays they have internal thought processes that they use while examining data to come to their own conclusions. Here's a link that shows the thought process of the model as it tackled the problem so you can see for yourself. Basically if it was just predicting what comes next and wasn't doing any thinking it wouldn't have been able to successfully do what it did since it's something original no one had ever done before in math.

Last edited by Norion - on 23 May 2026