Chrkeller said:
HebrewGamer said:
Your original point was the PS2 is the most successful console and it's not even close. I refuted that claim with the points I've made which you haven't responded to other than to hardp on DVDs not being the reason for its success which is a completely different discussion(and wouldn't confirm your original claim even if you were right).
Someone else posted two links attempting to prove standalone DVDs were as cheap if not cheaper than what the PS2 was offering. Those links actually refute their argument, especially the blog post link. The blog post asked if they should buy a PS2 or a standalone DVD player to play DVDs. Do you think this was the only person who contemplated such a decision? Do you think most people were posting on internet blogs in 2000? PS2 was the hot item coming off the success of PS1 and now they're offering a highly sought after cheap DVD player? the casuals were going to jump on that and that blogpost link proves this is the consumer decision people had in their heads. being able to play video games was a bonus.
Consumers didn't know there were cheaper options available, just as those who bought the NES didn't know about the Sega Master System and the Turbo Graphix 16 that had better graphics. They bought what had more notoriety, what all their friends had, and what was offering them something(free DVD player) their competitors did not.
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Yes. You are not adjusting for inflation. Not taking into account online subscriptions. And you dvd argument has zero evidence.
The atrach ratio for the ps2 was the same as the GC, which doesn't play DVDs.
Aka, your argument(s) are nonsense.
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Your tie in ratio take is a bad take. The original Xbox, which sold a measly 23 million units had 10 games per console sold to PS2s 11. Is the fact that people bought one less game for their Xbox than those for their PS2 the reason it was outsold 8 to 1 and NOT the fact Sony was giving people a free DVD player Microsoft wasn't?
REALLY????
Also, that figure is merely an average when dividing the software sales by the hardware sales. I have 30 games for my Switch1. You only need 50 million people to buy 30 games for their PS2 to get 1.5 billion in software sales. the other 110 million could buy it with no game.
Last edited by HebrewGamer - on 15 May 2026
