Is it possible for Clair Obscur to outsell Final Fantasy XVI?

[Chrkeller]

TheRealSamusAran said:

Chrkeller said:

So what?  A small developer, on their first attempt, made a better original game than Square has done in decades?  I mean, it feels like a huge deal.  I can't wait to see what they do next.  While FF17, maybe.  I don't think it is a secret Square is struggling to hit their sales targets.  There is a reason their entire corporate strategy is being re-thought.  Even Square knows they are losing traction within the industry.    

The remakes are very good to excellent, IMO.  The problem I have with Square is their original content, it is lacking.  There is a reason they are knee deep in making remakes, but they seem to struggle with original content.  Square has been disappointing, historically (SNES and ps1), they were my favorite developer.  

We will have to disagree about E33, the game was astounding.  The battle system was fantastic via parry and dodge system.  The character customization was excellent.  The story, world and characters -> top notch.  E33 was one the best games I have played in 10 years and was easily the best rpg I have played since the original FF7.  I can't praise the game enough.  

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Sandfall making a game faster, cheaper, better that also sells more than Final Fantasy..  I honestly don't know how that isn't a big deal.  

I will have to disagree about E33 being better than what SE made recently too, because I finally got into DQ through the recent remakes, and I loved each one of them. The HD-2D trilogy is fantastic. I've heard great things about DQXI, so that's next for me. And if you want original games, I will mention Team Asano again (oh, and also, DQXI), they released many bangers in this generation that you should check out.

But remember when I mentioned JRPG by Western devs? I also want to bring up the Trails series, I got into this series earlier this year through the remake of Trails in the Sky, and it blew me away, it's my favorite JRPG of all time, and I'm very excited for the remake of the second game coming out this September, because most of the opinions I've seen of the original is that it's even better than the first one. But if even every JRPG made by Square Enix not named "Final Fantasy" is niche in the West, JRPGs made by other, smaller japanese studios barely even get any recognition by the mass market, so I doubt most of the people who put E33 up on a pedestal even heard of that game, and even less will ever play it. Final Fantasy is everything most western players know, so of course the game by darling indie ex Ubisoft devs will be the new FFX to them.

DQ11 was spectacular.  but is from 2018 and isn't this generation.  Heck, it runs on the Switch 1..    I have beaten it twice.  I also beat Octopath, Remake and Rebirth.. and FF16.  Expedition 33, IMHO, wasn't just better, but way better than the aforementioned games.  

I have heard of the game, and it is in my wish list.  Just haven't gotten to it yet.

At the end of day, personal preferences aside, E33 outselling Final Fantasy is a big deal..  especially when it was developed cheaper and faster.  Assuming the internet is correct (which is an assumption), Rebirth was $110,000,000, while E33 was $10,000,000 in development costs.

And even Square admits their strategy is crap.  They have been forthcoming about having to re-structure their strategy, because they have fallen hard. That isn't to say they don't have good games, but they are not what they once were.  I don't think that is debatable.