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160rmf said:
CosmicSex said:

So first, I want to say that I don't think anyone is predicting astronomical sales for the PS5.  I also don't think it the PS5 would have to do that well just to beat the Switch 2.  This is borne out by the fact that they are neck and neck thus far which makes this interesting in the first place.  Outside of any crazy GTA bundle, the PS5 is already doing just fine and could simply just sell more simply because thats what happens regardless of the existence of a Nintendo console.  

I think you are saying that if sales trend toward the Switch 2 by the end of the year, you don't think that GTA 6 will move the needle.  And obviously that is where the real disagreement lies. What is the actual power of GTA 6 and will it create a boost that can carry the PS5 over the finish line to first place for the year?   Does this accurately explain our disagreement?  I kinda like the senerio where its down to the wire and we have to start looking at the small details to figure out a win.  Then again, Nintendo or Sony could blow it all up by making some crazy sales prediction lol. 

About the Ram... yeah its definitely a concern, but simply based on what Sony said, I don't think that is a think that will effect prices (at least this year).  I fully expect the console to be $399 or less next come this Black Friday.  Until Sony makes a different statement, I think we can remove that as a reason you 'have' to buy now.

*The sound of a chior can be heard off in the distance and growing in intensity*

You're lack of faith in the power of GTA facinates me and I look forward to converting you to church of Two Taken.  You are to become our greatest of champions and people will fear you as a prophet of the word. (160rmf: "Wait what now?" 🤣🤣).  Let us go together! And let us remember not to take any of it too seriously!

Meh, not feeling it. I will stick with the idea that the upgrade phenomenom has been spreading out through the years, specially after the reveal trailer. Just because our bubble acknowledge that Sony is preventing another price spike this year, we cant guarantee that this information has reached the general public or even if did how many will put faith in their statement?

Yes we should take them at their word... remember they only said that console prices weren't going up... but they seem more than willing to raise other prices like subscription costs (which isn't exactly a win for consumers lets be real).  But the more than that, and because of that, the are much more likely to keep the price as low as they can. Just seems like the most optomal and profitable path.  

Regarding your upgrade phenomenom theory: how do you account for the literal mountian of active PS4s?  Obviously, it is true that people have been upgrading since the trailer but wouldn't demand a PS5 be based on a more than just two trailers? And what about the people who will simply be moved by the hype to purchase a console for the game?  It seems like you are just ignoring all the clear evidence.  Do you expect GTA 6 to have no impact on PS5 demand?