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curl-6 said:
Norion said:

It being overall a good or bad thing is a different discussion though. My issue here was the implication in that post that the investment in AI is bringing no benefits when that is very clearly not the case. It'd be the same if someone said AI is causing no negatives, that would also be an absurd thing to say.

To get into that discussion though I do think there's a reasonable debate to be had over if the benefits or negatives are bigger right now so don't think it's as clear cut as you're saying. Me and SC have gone into various use cases in past posts in the thread and in general the benefits are already big and on my end the tech has overall improved my life so far. So many people are using it now to do things like help plan vacations and make their workflows more efficient so a lot of people are already getting a lot of value out of it.

I can't speak for shadow1980, but perhaps he/she feels any benefits are negligible in comparison to the downsides.

People planned vacations or impoved their workflows for centuries without AI. People wrote code for decades without AI. People wrote, composed, and painted/drew for millennia without AI. Nobody needs generative AI, we all got on just fine without it only a few short years ago. Outsourcing one's thinking and work to it simply makes people lazy, reduces the quality and value of the end result, and erodes critical thinking skills.

People also did those things before the internet but that doesn't mean the invention of that didn't bring about massive benefits. Same goes for how the internet wasn't needed and society would've continued functioning just fine without it so those aren't arguments against something by themselves. For the last part it depends on how someone uses it. People can absolutely be lazy and overly rely on it but as this post shows people can get a lot of value out of it when it's used right.

Also I think a big part of this is that the aspects people dislike are often very in your face while the positives are more in the background so are generally less known about. Like stuff like the Genie 3 and Firefox examples I brought up before are largely things that only people that are into the subject of AI will know about while something like skyrocketing RAM prices is gonna be known about by way, way more people. As a result many people seem to have a false impression that the RAM price increase is happening just to do stuff like create more advanced AI images and videos instead of doing things that are far more worthwhile.

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