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Norion said:
curl-6 said:

I'd contend that the evidence is overwhelming that AI is terrible for the world and society, so saying it's a good thing is akin to saying the Earth is flat.

Just a few years ago the world got along perfectly fine without AI, and in a short space of time it's done immense damage, from the enshittification of the internet to mass layoffs to deepfake CP/Revenge porn, to the erosion of critical thinking skills, and so on. 

We simply don't need it and it causes more problems than it solves.

It being overall a good or bad thing is a different discussion though. My issue here was the implication in that post that the investment in AI is bringing no benefits when that is very clearly not the case. It'd be the same if someone said AI is causing no negatives, that would also be an absurd thing to say.

To get into that discussion though I do think there's a reasonable debate to be had over if the benefits or negatives are bigger right now so don't think it's as clear cut as you're saying. Me and SC have gone into various use cases in past posts in the thread and in general the benefits are already big and on my end the tech has overall improved my life so far. So many people are using it now to do things like help plan vacations and make their workflows more efficient so a lot of people are already getting a lot of value out of it.

I can't speak for shadow1980, but perhaps he/she feels any benefits are negligible in comparison to the downsides.

People planned vacations or impoved their workflows for centuries without AI. People wrote code for decades without AI. People wrote, composed, and painted/drew for millennia without AI. Nobody needs generative AI, we all got on just fine without it only a few short years ago. Outsourcing one's thinking and work to it simply makes people lazy, reduces the quality and value of the end result, and erodes critical thinking skills.

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