Was Nintendo right to opt out of the graphics arms race?

[Chrkeller]

Soundwave said:

BraLoD said:

Definite "several generations beyond a PS4 architecture wise". That's the kind of shit you keep pouring and get you called out.

Isn't the actual games the best proof?

PS4 is running huge detailed open world games like Red Dead Redemption 2 and Horizon Forbidden West, games with extremely good looking models like The Last of Us Part II and Detroit Become Human, and one of the most impressive racing games ever in Gran Turismo 7, for example.

As far as games are concerned the PS4 can also run pretty much anything out there provided the necessary cutbacks are made, just like the Switch 2, and that's why many studios devided to still support it while they felt profit was there.

But sure, go ahead, treat the PS4 with disdain, exactly like you think (but is not happening) people are treating the Switch 2, which makes you mad.

You keep posting the same shit over and over like a broken record.

Define several generations ahead? You really need that spelled out for you?

Ampere is comparable to AMD RDNA 2 (better than it actually) which is better than the hybrid RDNA 1/2 mix the PS5/XBox Series X have. 

The PS4 is a dated GCN 2.0 architecture from 2012/13 which is miles behind RDNA 2 and Ampere. 

The Switch being able to run next-gen games Star Wars Outlaws, Assassin's Creed Shadows already early in its product cycle without much fuss, and having PS5/XSS only titles like 007 First Light, Final Fantasy VII Rebirth, Indiana Jones, and Monster Hunter Wilds basically confirmed whereas the PS4 likely would not be able to run these games without serious retooling of the games is no surprise to me. I said this many times here and got attacked for saying so. 

I said years ago here the architecture fucking mattered, the actual Nvidia data leak was right there staring everyone in the face, 1536 CUDA cores with Ampere architecture and even some Lovelace features, but only a handful of people here seemed to grasp what that even meant. That was always going to be significantly better than a PS4 and be able to run games a PS4 can't and I said that many times and got grief for saying so. 

I even said that chip would likely be powerful enough that it would likely cause Japanese developers like Square-Enix to make their mainline big budget Final Fantasy games available on Switch 2 as well, and lookey lookey ... not only FF7 Remake Integrade but FF7 Rebirth AND their next big FF mainline release FF7 Remake Part III is indeed confirmed for Switch 2. 

I also said many times also this was not a budget hardware and would likely cost $400 only if you were lucky, likely $450 or more looking at the component leaks. 1536 CUDA cores, 12MB RAM, 256GB high speed internal storage, 8 inch display, this was not some rinky dinky bargain basement cheap hardware, but you had a lot of people here thinking $350 was in play (lol). Because I was looking at the actual leaks and the components therein, not basing thingson a stupid "dur hur Nintendo cannott make gud hardwarez this is will beeez just like da Wii You again when Ninty fans got too excitied" line of logic. 

Lol, your actual prediction was $500+, with $600 being in play.  The rest of us were around $400, and the S2 is $450...  pretty spot on.  

As for 1536 cuda cores, jesus man, that isn't high end.  That is below a 2050 which launched five years ago.  The 5050 is 2560 cuda cores.  Not a fair comparison because it is desktop versus mobile, but I am rocking over 16,000 cude cores.  I don't get why 1536, which is below mobile GPUs from 2020 is such a shock. 

and if you compare fps and resolution of cross gen games with the ps4 and switch 2...  pretty much exactly the same, with the ps4 pro beating out the S2.   

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And don't get me wrong, DK Bananza is a fantastic game, but it is 1080p with fps issues.  The S2 wasn't the 4k machine you made it out to be, it just flatly isn't.  

Last edited by Chrkeller - on 13 January 2026