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BraLoD said:
Soundwave said:

Define several generations ahead? You really need that spelled out for you?

Ampere is comparable to AMD RDNA 2 (better than it actually) which is better than the hybrid RDNA 1/2 mix the PS5/XBox Series X have. 

The PS4 is a dated GCN 2.0 architecture from 2012/13 which is miles behind RDNA 2 and Ampere. 

The Switch being able to run next-gen games Star Wars Outlaws, Assassin's Creed Shadows already early in its product cycle without much fuss, and having PS5/XSS only titles like 007 First Light, Final Fantasy VII Rebirth, Indiana Jones, and Monster Hunter Wilds basically confirmed whereas the PS4 likely would not be able to run these games without serious retooling of the games is no surprise to me. I said this many times here and got attacked for saying so. 

I said years ago here the architecture fucking mattered, the actual Nvidia data leak was right there staring everyone in the face, 1536 CUDA cores with Ampere architecture and even some Lovelace features, but only a handful of people here seemed to grasp what that even meant. That was always going to be significantly better than a PS4 and be able to run games a PS4 can't and I said that many times and got grief for saying so. 

I even said that chip would likely be powerful enough that it would likely cause Japanese developers like Square-Enix to make their mainline big budget Final Fantasy games available on Switch 2 as well, and lookey lookey ... not only FF7 Remake Integrade but FF7 Rebirth AND their next big FF mainline release FF7 Remake Part III is indeed confirmed for Switch 2. 

I also said many times also this was not a budget hardware and would likely cost $400 only if you were lucky, likely $450 or more looking at the component leaks. 1536 CUDA cores, 12MB RAM, 256GB high speed internal storage, 8 inch display, this was not some rinky dinky bargain basement cheap hardware, but you had a lot of people here thinking $350 was in play (lol). Because I was looking at the actual leaks and the components therein, not basing thingson a stupid "dur hur Nintendo cannott make gud hardwarez this is will beeez just like da Wii You again when Ninty fans got too excitied" line of logic. 

You are doing the very same thing you have been complaying in this thread about, saying PS4 can't run X or Y game, when it can, it's mostly a business decision, pretty much like the Switch 1 or 2 running games from machines more powerful than them.

The difference being that nobody would say the PS4 is running the PS5 game with ease, but with compromisses, exactly like the Switch 2 is running PS5 games, with compromisses, and exactly like the PS5 is running those games compared to high end PCs: with compromisses.

The only one getting mad about it is you, even while you are also doing it yourself.

If PS4's GCN 2.0 having no/little difference to modern architectures like Ampere (which is better than AMD's RDNA2) is the hill you want to die on, I'm really not going to waste my time arguing with you, you either understand the differences there or you don't. You can have that hill and die on it. I can see clearly the games the Switch 2 is already getting early in its product cycle and it's already many of the biggest profile PS5/XSS only next-gen games and it's no suprise to me at all, several of these games I even called coming onto the system to other people saying no way (the next mainline Final Fantasy? Yup. FF7R Part III Confirmed. FF7 Rebirth port? Yup. Confimed. Monster Hunter Wilds? Looks like it). 

The general discourse with Nintendo hardware for whatever reason just seems dumb in a lot of ways and it seems specific to Nintendo platforms, other consoles it's just they hear a rumor/report and then go "yeah ... maybe, I dunno". I'll even cite another specific example that probably many posters will remember ... the whole dumb debate over when Nintendo can/can't unveil the system unless it aligns almost exactly with the Switch 1 and other previous Nintendo system time line. 

Like even when people like I and I think maybe one other poster tried to explain Nintendo only announced the NX (Switch 1) a couple of years before launch because they had to reassure stockholders that they were still going to make physical hardware going forward while announcing they were making smartphone games (perfectly logical) ... explaining this felt like trying to explain the theory of gravity to a religious person. 

People were still like "no, no, Nintendo has to first announce the Switch successor officially and then it will release like 2 years later, revealing the system and just launching a few months later can't happen". And guess what happened? They revealed the system in January and launched a few months later. So much for having to do a product unveil 18-24 months prior. And even *that* they probably were aiming to reveal maybe in late Jan/Feb, they got likely forced into revealing early because all the leaks were basically all correct and Nintendo knew it. It just seems like this is specific or far more prevalent with Nintendo discussions for whatever bizarre reason. Logic goes out the window. 

Last edited by Soundwave - on 13 January 2026