Was Nintendo right to opt out of the graphics arms race?

[Chrkeller]

BraLoD said:

Soundwave said:

The fun thing about having actual games as proof is not having to listen to dumb opinions on what "PS4 performance" even means and how that supposedly relates to the Switch 2. 

When's the PS4 getting FF7 Rebirth and Star Wars Outlaws with ray tracing and Indiana Jones & The Great Circle, and Monster Hunter Wilds and Assassin's Creed Shadows like the Switch 2 already has or will have coming for it soon?

Oh yeah that's right ... never. Because you would actually have to radically rework those games to work on a PS4, the Switch 2 not so much because its GPU is several generations beyond a PS4 architecture wise (not to mention Nvidia's architecture is generally simply better than AMD, let alone old ass AMD arch). 

It's nice to have the system out and have game announcements and releases that can do all the talking and not have to listen to just amateur hour opinions. 

Definite "several generations beyond a PS4 architecture wise". That's the kind of shit you keep pouring and get you called out.

Isn't the actual games the best proof?

PS4 is running huge detailed open world games like Red Dead Redemption 2 and Horizon Forbidden West, games with extremely good looking models like The Last of Us Part II and Detroit Become Human, and one of the most impressive racing games ever in Gran Turismo 7, for example.

As far as games are concerned the PS4 can also run pretty much anything out there provided the necessary cutbacks are made, just like the Switch 2, and that's why many studios devided to still support it while they felt profit was there.

But sure, go ahead, treat the PS4 with disdain, exactly like you think (but is not happening) people are treating the Switch 2, which makes you mad.

You keep posting the same shit over and over like a broken record.

The bolded part, exactly.  If someone wants to say it outclasses the ps4, fair, it does.  If someone wants to argue it outclasses the ps4 pro, questionable, but still acceptable.  But the attitude that it is leaps and bounds beyond the ps4 is absurd.  

Elden Ring:

ps4 - 1080p/30 fps

s2 - 1080p/30 fps

FF7 Remake

ps4 - 1080p/30 fps

S2 - 1080p/30 fps

Street Fighter 6

ps4 - 1080p/60 fps

S2 - 980p/60 fps

Digital Foundry put Cyber Punk above the ps4, but below the ps4 pro..  this obnoxious attitude that the S2 leaps/bounds above the ps4 and ps4 pro is so flatly false.   

But be careful BraLoD, if you don't agree with him, he will assume you are an alt because reasons.

I am guessing he doesn't want to admit people were right with their predictions.  Denying reality, repeating the same thing over/over and declaring victory on imaginary battles..  reminds me of someone.  

and, to your point, if a game released on a particular hardware is a business decision.  The Switch has no GTA games, but it could run them.  Survivor, a next gen game, was ported to the ps4.  Survivor has similar requirements to SH F, which means that could be ported as well.  Unicorn Overlord isn't on PC, that doesn't mean it can run the game.  

edit

Estimates on GPU:

ps4 is a 7850

S2 is a 1050ti (63% increase over 7850)

ps4 pro is a RX 470 (27% increase over a 1050ti)

The ps4 pro has a more powerful CPU compared to the Switch 2.  The Switch 2 fits between the ps4 and ps4 pro, but with newer tech like RT.  So, calling the S2 a ps4 pro with bells/whistles is just accurate..  and ironically is exactly what the vast majority of us predicted.  Nintendo sacrificed power for price, as we all said they would.  It isn't a premium product, because if it were, the unit would be 16 gb ram, not 12 gb.    

Last edited by Chrkeller - on 13 January 2026