Is nintendo the winner of the 8th gen or the 9th gen?

[angrypoolman]

160rmf said:

Atari 2600 (1977) 2nd gen
Atari 5200 (1982) 2nd gen

Atari 7800 (1986) 3rd gen

Wii U (2012)

Switch (2017)

Switch 2 (2025)

You are being pretty disingenuous to say Atari 5200 which was discontinued 2 years later after its release to be in the same situation as Switch to Switch 2

first of all, the argument you made was that since something is a successor, it belongs in the next generation. that is the single point that i aimed to dispel. so if you want to make the point that switch is 9th gen, you will need something better than that because i objectively disproved that line of reasoning.

second, the comparison is the two consoles that are released in the same generation, so we arent pairing switch and switch 2, we are pairing switch and wii u. the comparison is that there are two 2nd gen consoles (2600 and 5200) and two 8th gen consoles (wii u and switch). and i will reiterate the point i made earlier is that the reason that is even possible in the first place is because for you to be able to release two consoles in a single generation, at least one of them had to have been a failure. and that is the case in both situations. 

so if you want to make further responses about this, make sure to keep track of the argument and make sure to address the actual points being made.