Is nintendo the winner of the 8th gen or the 9th gen?

[angrypoolman]

TheRealSamusAran said:

angrypoolman said:

Well yes there is context that you have to use when things dont line up as neatly as youd like them to. For dreamcast, it released in 1999 but is part of 6th gen because its harware is more comparable there. Colecovision was 1982 near the end of the 2nd generation but its hardware is more comparable to 2nd gen consoles. 

The Wii U launched in 2012 with a hardware more comparable to 7th gen consoles, but not one disputes the Wii U being 8th gen. No one disputes the Wii being 7th gen.

There were people back in 2007 and 2008 saying that the wii was a 6th gen console because they couldnt cope with the fact that nintendo was going to win a generation and sony was going to lose one. Real stuff, that was actually happening. Regardless though, its not just about power, its about power and timing. Its not just one or the other. Also, a little common sense can help you figure a sensible grouping. So its not just one thing you use to determine it. People who say "wii u comes after wii and switch comes after wii u" to determine what generation its in are just taking a very simple minded approach to it. Its good to be simple, but you have to take a step back and take a macro view of things, look at the big picture, things like context, history, precedent, and stuff, and stuff and stuff.