Blood_Tears said:
Norion said:
The Switch was getting destroyed by the PS4 in Europe for a while but its final sales total will only be a few million less so it's not like Japan even remotely. Now a notable part of it getting that close to the PS4 was the pandemic so I fully expect the Switch 2 to decline but it should still outsell the Wii here which is the 6th best selling console of all time in Europe so it'll do well here. Playstation is more popular than Nintendo in Europe but Nintendo still clearly has a major presence here so your consistent downplaying of that lately is getting really weird and with stuff like comparing Playstation vs Nintendo in Europe to Japan is reaching denying reality levels of absurd. |
While I agree with most of your points, the difference between PS4 and Switch 1 in Europe is over 6.5M and the Switch won't sell that much more from here on out there. So over 6M is more than "a few million less" since one of your points is about downplaying I figured I would call that out so you don't downplay the overall numbers either. |
I mean Switch 1 shipments in Europe were already at just under 39.6m as of the end of September so the final gap is not gonna be over 6m and few is commonly used for 5 so this just feels like splitting hairs to me.
Kyuu said:
Norion said:
The Switch was getting destroyed by the PS4 in Europe for a while but its final sales total will only be a few million less so it's not like Japan even remotely. Now a notable part of it getting that close to the PS4 was the pandemic so I fully expect the Switch 2 to decline but it should still outsell the Wii here which is the 6th best selling console of all time in Europe so it'll do well here. Playstation is more popular than Nintendo in Europe but Nintendo still clearly has a major presence here so your consistent downplaying of that lately is getting really weird and with stuff like comparing Playstation vs Nintendo in Europe to Japan is reaching denying reality levels of absurd. |
It should also be noted that the Switch effectively enjoyed about two extra years of added hardware sales compared to PS4. PS4's production was capped soon after COVID, which started 2-3 years of production troubles for Sony, and boosted Nintendo's numbers. Nintendo (post WiiDS) vs Sony isn't that close in Europe. But it's certainly nowhere near as bad as Japan lol. It's much closer to the US. |
That is another factor yeah. With a full 8 years before the PS5 came out the gap would've been even bigger so there is a significant difference so to compare it to Japan it's like Japan in gens 6-7 where there's a clear leader but 2nd place is still extremely relevant.
