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| S.Peelman said: Not to derail an American thread, but at the moment the difference in votes is about 15000 in favor of D66, basically due to Amsterdam. Before its results were in Wilders’s PVV was ahead by about 2000 votes. Super close, and there’s still a couple more municipalities that have to publish results. Plus votes from abroad aren’t in yet. I doubt those will be enough to let PVV win though. But it doesn’t matter much regardless, because most parties already said beforehand that they don’t want to work with the PVV anymore, so Wilders likely isn’t going to be able to form a coalition. So yeah Trump will lose a European friend.
Something that they could’ve come together on if they weren’t busy with themselves all the time I’m sure. Confidence here in politics is at an all-time low because of the persisting shenanigans, name-calling, mud slinging. You name it. |
Not Netherlands-related, but American-related: If PVV had gotten the largest share of the vote of all of the competing parties in the Netherlands and didn't get to control the government, a lot of American right wingers would have been upset that Wilders didn't get to be Prime Minister, even if that share was like 25 percent. A lot of them are hung up on the "winner takes all" mentality. When Herbert Kickl didn't win the chancellorship of Austria after his party got 29% of the total vote (the largest single share), American right-wingers were big mad about it. In their mind, he should have had a total mandate off of that 29 percent. It didn't register to them that 71% basically voted against FPO and formed a coalition accordingly.
To give you an example, Oklahoma is one of the "reddest" states in the USA. Even there, Kamala Harris got a larger share of the vote (31.2%) than any single party is likely to get of the Dutch electorate. All five of Oklahoma's congressional districts likewise had Democrats voting in larger shares than PVV or any other party is going to get in the Dutch election. Those 35% of Oklahomas will be completely unrepresented in any branch of the federal government, and they don't really have any effective representation in the state government, either.
This is also why voting third party is useless in the United States, for people outside (and inside) the United States who can't wrap their heads around the fact that the U.S. technically uses a two-party system, and in most jurisdictions, it's really a one-party system.
Last edited by SanAndreasX - on 30 October 2025
