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SvennoJ said:

Got it out or rather through today. It clogged back up completely when stuff started coming loose in the pipe, it surged for a second and then all got stuck in the next corner. No use plunging when it's that far down, the pressure wave goes into the dishwasher, no effect with suction either.

So auger back in, which actually got stuck for a little bit. I could feel the weight of the plug on it and it took quit a bit of strength (and hoping not to pull the pipes apart) to get the auger loose again. Then push the plug further through followed by that satisfying gurgle that it broke up and went on its merry way. A lot more twisting and up and down, boiling water etc to clean it out further and now it drains super fast again.

But you can hear by the way the water leaves the pipe that there must be a belly or maybe multiple in there :/

Plumbing in this house is a mess. The toilets upstairs have their permanent plungers, regularly clog like multiple times per week. Easy to plunge but that shouldn't be routine. I guess not surprising since the first time the sewer exit clogged and flooded the basement they found tile grout all in the pipe... We got water alarms in the furnace room now (water heater also leaked after a few years) next to the floor drain. And we had a plumber reroute the water mains so all water goes through the water softener. For some reason they left the kitchen and toilets on city water. Hard water here, broke the kitchen tap and toilet cut off valves. 

Still better than renting a house anyway, but new house (build 2002, we got it 2007) doesn't mean well build. Then again, our first house was an oldie with a leaking roof (actually found snow in the attic), leaking chimney for which the back wall had to be replaced and the stove in the basement kept triggering the CO alarm... Electrical was a hazard, galvanized water lines that were corroded on the inside. But the drains worked!

Our first house We have a bit of a history with water issues lol

Forgot to ask about how many 90's, especially after the clog. Always fear more bends when dealing with plumbing.

Bows in the pipe are just asking for clogs. It's the perfect spot for them to start, then build up. I went to the trouble of using some of the new support strapping I got to bend some of the pipes downward, to take the higher bows out to flatten the pipe overall. Looks ridiculous but everything flows extremely well now, except for maybe the master bath and it's nonsense.

Soft water goes a long way beyond washing. The old farm house and cast iron piping used to get clogged often enough, even with cleanings, until we got a much upgraded superior water softener system. Also cleaned the pipes at that time, and never had a clog afterwards. Plus the new water felt like washing with silk. 

No, new definitely doesn't mean well done. Neither does custom anymore. Problem with well built, is it needs to be done 100% correct or it can end up a far bigger problem than half assed these days. With so much emphasis on closing the house in and sealing it up tight, any screw ups and you're asking for giant pains down the road. If I didn't know any better, I'd assume a bunch of green apprentices did all the plumbing work in this house. The master bath plumbing looks like they just had a ton of extra pipe and bends and ran it anywhere to make it look like they were worth the money. Could've been done with half the pipe, would've been far more simple and straight forward, and still up to code. I'm dreading it clogging and having to cut it apart and redo it.

Good to hear you got it taken care of, allowing you to avoid some other fears by facing your fears.



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