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[Runa216]

Shaunodon said:

Runa216 said:

Julius Streicher was the publisher of Der Stürmer, a Nazi newspaper devoted to antisemitic hate. He wasn’t a general or a policymaker — his “crime” was words. At Nuremberg, the Tribunal ruled that his relentless incitement of hatred and extermination was a crime against humanity. He was executed in 1946 solely for propaganda.
That history matters today. Figures like Charlie Kirk and Ben Shapiro dress up their politics as “commentary,” but what they’re really doing is classic fascist propaganda: scapegoating minorities, spreading fear, vilifying women, LGBTQ people, and immigrants. This isn’t harmless opinion — it’s rhetoric designed to dehumanize and radicalize.
If Streicher taught us anything, it’s that propaganda is a weapon. Free societies can’t afford to shrug it off as “just speech.”

No, that is literally what you are doing, right now. Unbelievable.

But I want you to speak. I want everyone to see the exact environment that's been cultivated here.

You....don't seem to grasp much of anything, do you? 

My aggressive response to all that's happening right now is not 'I hate conservatives' (I actually feel centrist policies that balance left and right leaning legislature is the balance we need), but instead a reaction to modern conservatives actively stoking the fires of bigotry and inciting hatred towards pretty much everyone that isn't one considered to be like them. 

I don't try to criminalize being a conservative, but I absolutely do feel what people like Kirk are doing should be seen as criminal. Hate speech. Propaganda. You trying to 'same sides' the argument is laughable.

Side 1 - "I think every one of these people need to die, or be seen as lesser, or removed"

Side 2 - "Your propaganda is inciting people to commit crimes against people and I feel you should be held accountable for your actions"

You - "Both are the same"

One wants genocide and is being vaguely subtle about inciting it. The other wants to stop the genocide and is being loud and aggressive about countering the propaganda that is encouraging it. And you think we're the same? Seriously, fuuuuuuuuuck youuuuuuuuuu. Absolutely fucking disgusting take. 

RolStoppable said:

Shaunodon said:

The latter.

If you exhibit the evil you accuse others of, you are that evil.

Everyone here needs a very long look in the mirror.

Then post the evidence. Runa's blog, YouTube channel or whatever else they may have to spread their hate on a large scale.

You can't reason with someone so far removed from reality, morality, or objective truth. As I said before, my only crime/morally questionable action is saying that modern conservatives are villains for their incitement of hatred and violence, and with the current administration actual ACTION has to be taken to stop them. From committing genocide. You know, the thing we all agreed was bad and they're doing it anyway. 

Nobody WANTS violence, so many leftist/Liberal/Democratic policies are meant to help a wide net of people with the stated goal of lowering crime and poverty (with the studies, statistics, and facts to back it up). But when the GOP are breaking the rules and doing nazi shit (it is, it really is, just not specifically against jews), and 'playing by the rules' doesn't stop them, action needs to be taken.

When you refuse to abide by the contract, you are not protected by it. the GOP have broken the rules and are committing the most egregious atrocities while slowly making the US a worse place with all the early signs of genocide. They need not to be eradicated for 'different speech' but held accountable for their VERY powerful propaganda and resulting actions. 

Being held accountable for your actions (Inciting literal genocide) is not the same as being a victim of or trying to stop said genocide. And the fact that some people genuinely seem to not be able to tell the difference is mind-blowing to me.