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Hardstuck-Platinum said:
Soundwave said:

I think if anything the whole "Nintendo will do XYZ cuz that's what happened X years ago" is irrelevant. Nintendo will do whatever suits them in the moment and Nintendo is run today by a completely different, much younger president who grew up in the 1990s. I think they are well aware last time Sony marched into console territory in 1995/96, Nintendo just bent over and let them take the market over essentially by giving them all their 3rd party support. 

The Playstation didn't arise from nowhere or organically ... they basically stole the market Nintendo had built with the Famicom (NES) and Super Famicom (SNES) and used the same exact 3rd parties that Nintendo had popularized on their hardware platforms (Squaresoft, Capcom, Konami, etc.). 

I don't think they will allow that mistake to repeat. So if this "PS5/6 Portable" is a credible competitor, they are going to go head on and match it so that developers will essentially be forced into making anything that is for PS5/6 Portable is also made for the Switch 2 ecosystem, day 1 too. It's not terribly difficult to take the existing Switch 2 which already runs PS5 tier games reasonably well and ramp that up to match whatever Sony is making. Nvidia is easily capable of matching/exceeding anything AMD does. For another thing Nintendo doesn't even have the luxury of not doing anything, hybrid market is the only market they have left, they can't rely on like the Game Boy as they did once the N64/GameCube saw massive declines. They have no choice but to defend their market space. 

And Nintendo was always going to make a $500+ model, the base Switch 2 is $499.99 w/Mario Kart (that's the one most people buy) ... you thought things like the inevitable OLED revision wasn't going to cost more than that? HAH. We were always going to $550-$600+ for one of the Switch 2 models. 

So that's what I think will happen the PS5/6 Portable + Switch 2 Pro basically get all the games in that scenario, the giant brick "traditional" PS6 that can't be moved around the house I think will simply just run those games with better effects/resolution, but in a way its going to more of a companion hardware than the other way around. Games will be made essentially for these sub-PS5 (in raw performance) mobile devices from Sony and Nintendo (PS5/6 Portable + Switch 2 Pro + Switch 2 regular) and then they will just be scaled up on the regular Playstation 6. I think a PS6 Pro is not happening, the PS5 Pro is not performing well, Sony is going the other way in performance. 

The PS6 portable will just be a portable PS5 though. If Nintendo doesn't react to PS5 with equal power console in 2020 why would they react to an equal power handheld in 2027? They will have completely different business models. Switch 2 has the standard console sales model where you have to sell 10's of millions to convince devs to support platform, whereas the PS6P will just take advantage of the support the PS5 already gets. It's just a PS5 really, and Nintendo can't compete with that with the Switch 2 because PS5 is so far ahead now

That's the thing though that people aren't getting ... a PS6 Portable model IS the PS6 then. Doesn't matter if its hardware spec is below even the PS5.

That's the baseline that all developers will make games on. And if those games run better than the Switch 2, then it is a direct threat to Nintendo's hybrid market share. So they basically have no choice but to respond in kind with a Pro (or whatever they want to call it) model at some point. I don't think they can just sit there and let Sony have free reign with portable device that has all 3rd party games day 1, you're just recreating a similar situation to the PS1 to N64 then. 

Where does that leave the "normal PS6" then? It will just run those PS6 Portable games (with PS5 tier graphics) and shiny them up a bit with better resolution and effects and that's all. 

I think people have it backwards thinking the portable/hybrid PS6 is just the secondary/companion console ... it will end up being the opposite. The hybrid form factor when offered to consumers is very popular and second to that, no developer is going to want to not get sales from that console, so by default it basically becomes the platform they actually have to target for, because it's easy to then just take that version of the game and ramp it up for the regular PS6. 

All that is to say ... we could be seeing PS5 games (as in the current PS5 home console) then as a result for like another decade, lol. 

Sony going hybrid and Microsoft effectively going out of the market in a lot of ways is going to radically change the console landscape I think, more than people might be prepared for even. 

Last edited by Soundwave - on 04 September 2025