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[Torillian]

EricHiggin said:

Torillian said:

This is a fun hypothetical but do you have anything to back up the idea? Because I looked up the gender ratio of architects (the people that would be the most interested in aesthetics of a building) and women make up 27% of them while making up 17% of civil engineers. A measurable difference but nothing that makes me think that civil engineering is the domain of dudes while the aesthetics of buildings is ladies' work. 

You can see them as being "naturally a certain way" but when it comes to prescriptions I want everyone to do what they like regardless of societal pressure. If you want to be a house wife or house husband, yay, if you want to work as an engineer also fine. 

Most people aren't top tier in terms of what they do. Just because there's less woman, doesn't mean those woman aren't the top tier in their line of work. I wouldn't exactly say the majority of buildings are all well laid out and extremely pleasing to the eye.

Nobody also said it's ladies work. What was said was that females and lgbt would do a much better job in those positions because they care more about the people who will be impacted. Not all positions require that human touch.

Some prefer that people simply do what they like. Some prefer people do what makes most sense. It's why rules and regulations exist. You can't just have everyone doing whatever they like, and for those who are negatively impacted by the rules, we as a society see it as "tough luck" for the most part. Letting everyone simply do what they like for work will lead to far less highly skilled professionals and less efficiency overall. Those things mainly come when focusing on having the best who can do those jobs, taking those positions, whether they like the role itself or not. Just depends on what society as a whole decides is most important to them.

ok, so then show me any evidence that the women in that field are the top tier. Because when I look up lists of the most famous architects or "the best architects" it's all dudes except Jeanne Gang. Why would it be that women aren't known for or flock to this field that naturally they should be so much better at? 

The issue is who decides what makes the most sense and how accurate are they. I imagine that there are so few female architects because it's been thought of as dude's work even though they seem like they'd naturally be better at it. Think of all the amazing architects who never even considered the field because society pushed them away. Similarly how many Francis Arnold's would we have in Chemistry that were lost to being housewives back in the 30's and before? Allowing people to pursue what they want as a career is the easiest way to try to naturally sort people into the best positions, because the question is too granular to say "most architects should probably be women because they care more about how people are impacted by building design".