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Lucca said:
Chrkeller said:

One would think with 2x the population of the US not all top 7 tech companies would be from the US.  

Funny how that works.  

I stand by my stance.  Born in the US, lived in Europe and my love for the US simply grew.  More opportunity.  

I simply have no interest in trading opportunity for social nets I don't need that require 40% income tax plus 20% VAT. 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_public_corporations_by_market_capitalization

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If the issue is verbiage I'm happy to use "leftist social policies" instead of socialism.  But regardless of terminology, my stance stands. 

Been there, done that and no thanks. 

To each their own.  

If you, personally, not needing social safety nets is a reason for you to think they're useless, then yeah, you're right-wing. It also makes me think you're a horrible person. You know, as a society, we're kind of supposed to care for everyone living in that society, not just ourselves. I think that wild individualism is the real driver of right-wing politics. You can make someone destroy everyone around them if you convince them that they will personally benefit from it.

I'd rather live somewhere with no billionaires but a solid safety net than somewhere where billionaires thrive but people need to choose between going into crippling debt to get an education or live their entire lives struggling to pay for their next meal. If you've been convinced that you should give up on every right as a citizen and as a worker for the tending-towards-zero chance of becoming a billionaire, then you're as naïve as anyone.

You can think I'm a "horrible person" all day long.  I don't much care what strangers think of me.  

And there is where right and left diverge.  Is isn't my responsibility to pay for someone else's family.  My family is my responsibility, which I take off.  Nobody pays for my family, I do.  I've already put four people through college.  I should pay for a 5th because reasons.  No thanks.  

I believe in personal responsibility.  

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Also you want to talk about "naive."  There is a massive wide space between struggling to buy food and being worth billions.  I mean, lol.  Get serious.

Last edited by Chrkeller - on 02 September 2025

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