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the-pi-guy said:
bdbdbd said:

No, they don't think fathers need support. It's actually quite the opposite. The reason why single fathers are better parents than single mothers is because you can be a shitty mother and still have a full custody of your kids, but for a father to do the same, you need to be exceptionally good. Partially why kids are the best in a nuclear family is, that when one parent is good and the other parent is bad, the good parent always make up the bad parenting. There are different things mothers and fathers teach their kids. A generation raised by mothers is talking about toxic masculinity, but what they actually mean is the lack of masculinity. Maybe if kids were raised only by fathers, we'd be talking about toxic femininity when there's a lack of it.

https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2013/07/02/the-rise-of-single-fathers/

>There are some notable differences between single mothers and single fathers. Single fathers are more likely than single mothers to be living with a cohabiting partner (41% versus 16%). Single fathers, on average, have higher incomes than single mothers and are far less likely to be living at or below the poverty line—24% versus 43%. Single fathers are also somewhat less educated than single mothers, older and more likely to be white.

Single fathers are more than twice as likely to have a partner in the home - they have more support.  

Single fathers tend to be higher income than single mothers. 

bdbdbd said:

It's not that everyone would choose so, it's that when a group of men and a group of women are to choose between two options, more women choose one over the other and more men choose the opposite.

Most often the different preferences carry to different jobs, the correlation is higher the more you get to choose. 

I think your reply here wildly misses the point. 

Even if we assume that preferences are somehow innate, and not culturally driven - which there's lots of evidence that shows that isn't 100% given*, that doesn't mean that that preferences map cleanly onto other jobs.

* A lot of sports and jobs have historically been women or men led at different points in time. There are plenty of sports today that we consider to be women led sports that historically were men led sports like figure skating and gymnastics.  Cheerleading was historically a male sport.  

Teaching was for a long time, male dominated. 

There is huge amounts of evidence that show that a lot of these jobs are not driven by some kind of innate preference, but because of cultural changes.  "Oh teaching is male driven because men are workers." "Oh teaching is female driven because women like kids" Even if the underlying pretense hasn't changed, the argument for why women or men should be doing a job has changed over time.  

So, single fathers are better in that regard too, when ut comes to steady relationships. Basically the data is just feeding stereotypes of single mothers with varying sexual partners. Many single mothers live off of a good child support as well. Single mothers get more support from society than single fathers.

Many previously male-dominated trades have become female dominated after women having the opportunity to get a degree and/or work in such field - this is kind of what it says what happens when people can choose to do what interests them. 



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