the-pi-guy said:
It's baffling to me why men feel like they're under attack, when someone is just trying to include more people. "Remember: Star Wars is primarily for 12-year-old boys." - as far as I can tell this part is the actual quote that was said by George Lucas, and you're arguing that Star Wars was for everyone. But suggesting that the Force is Female (in a different context), is dismissive for men.  That's how it generally feels when these kinds of comments come up. If you specify women, it must be pushing away men. If you specify men, it gets argued it is for everyone.  |
I mean... I guess part of our disagreement stems from reading the room differently. This kind of overinflated proportionality to these complaints just doesn't ring as genuine - aside from the most radical of responses. Most people rebuking Disney Wars aren't mentally framing this as a mini-9/11 or whatever, but rather directly responding the elephant in the room. To see why Disney's lost their influence with this particular market just look at the slop they've recently made.
Not quite. Let me clarify: that GL quote is really a fusion of sentiments he's shared before. I was using some creative license to reflect how I interpret his quotes: the broader mythical tale is consumable for all ages, but his biggest focus was the pre-teen boy audience. This is reflected by both word and deed. I vaguely recall a story about GL interviewing child psychologists to see how they'd handle the darker tone in Empire Strikes Back, for example.
I think you're missing the point. I'm less concerned about it being "dismissive of men" and more about showcasing a peculiar contrast. It's like the perfect representation of Disney's fundamental disregard for GL's creative drive & ethos; even his fictional cosmic energy field can't avoid being roped into a silly gender tagline. To be clear: labeling The Force as either male or female is stupid and reductive.
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