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JRPGfan on 29 August 2025
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mZuzek said:
chakkra said:

1) Star Wars has ALWAYS had female characters. Leia was an important part of the first trilogy, Padme was an important part of the second trilogy. Ahsoka was an important part of the Clone Wars series. And there were many secondary female characters sprinkled in there: Mon Mothma, Shakti, Assaj Ventress, The Night Sisters, etc.

Dude. "Having" female characters doesn't make a story interesting for women. Look at the first female characters that come to your mind when you think of Star Wars. Leia and Padme. Two extremely shallow characters whose arcs are always somewhere in between damsel in distress and trophy wife. They're both there just to serve as plot devices for the male heroes. No woman in the world looks up to those characters and goes like "she's awesome, I wanna be like her".

Yeah, Disney took things in the extreme other direction with Rey, by trying so hard to make her look cool that they forgot to write an actual arc for her, so she just spends 3 movies getting everything handed to her for free and never making a mistake. Maybe young girls can look at her and say "she's awesome, I wanna be like her", but anyone who likes good character work and storytelling will only see a boring shallow character.

Ultimately the best female characters in the series, both before and after Disney's takeover, came in spin-offs. Haven't seen Clone Wars stuff but yeah, Ahsoka seems pretty cool. And Jyn was awesome in Rogue One (the one actually good Star Wars film Disney put out).

Women don't need to be the ones fighting to be worthy of looking up too.
I think your downplaying Leia and Padme's roll in the story and the impact they have.

Rey is a feminist power trip gone wrong, and should not be a roll model imo.

Also "No woman in the world looks up to those characters and goes like "she's awesome, I wanna be like her".

Have you never seen cosplay?
Also plenty of women actually like the idea of the damsel in distress and a strong man showing up to save them from their troubles.
There's tons of love stories that sell very well to women, based on that concept.

Again a topic is about Guys feeling that they have had their thing trashed by Disney.
Reguardless of how much defense force, allies here run for them everytime a topic is about this stuff.....
the end results in the real world, are less guys watching this crap, and less money made by Disney.

I feel like certain people are off tracking the topic here, trying to play defense.