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chakkra on 28 August 2025
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the-pi-guy said:
coolbeans said:

Both in your response and some of the other posts since my first comment, it's genuinely baffling how some people are approaching this situation.  You understand the type of specialized fandom Star Wars has cultivated since its OG release, right?

It's baffling to me why men feel like they're under attack, when someone is just trying to include more people. 

"Remember: Star Wars is primarily for 12-year-old boys." - as far as I can tell this part is the actual quote that was said by George Lucas, and you're arguing that Star Wars was for everyone. 

But suggesting that the Force is Female (in a different context), is dismissive for men.  

That's how it generally feels when these kinds of comments come up. If you specify women, it must be pushing away men. If you specify men, it gets argued it is for everyone.  

Okay, here's the thing, stories targeted to the female demographic (books, TV series, movies, etc) have always been told from a female perspective. Why? because most women relate more to a character from their perspective. There's nothing wrong with that, that is basic nature, everybody understands that. That's why you have never seen men complaining, calling women sexist for watching stories from their perspective, and demanding to have more "representation" in female-targeted stories.

But somehow we got to a point in time where a group of people in charge looked at the things that men were watching and said "Wait a minute! why do men prefer stories told from their perspective? That's wrong!".

And no, they have not simply been "including more people."


1) Star Wars has ALWAYS had female characters. Leia was an important part of the first trilogy, Padme was an important part of the second trilogy. Ahsoka was an important part of the Clone Wars series. And there were many secondary female characters sprinkled in there: Mon Mothma, Shakti, Assaj Ventress, The Night Sisters, etc.

2) But now, they released a mini series with 9 episodes and there was ONE male Jedi in all 9 epidodes, ONE male Jedi in 9 episodes... then they released Tales of The Empire.. 2 arcs, 2 stories told from the female perspective.. then they released The Acolyte.. I don't even want to talk about that one.

And all of that came after the THREE MAIN movies were told from a female perspective.


So NO, they have not simply been "including more people". Star Wars and Marvel already had the right amount of female characters for stories that were supposed to be targetted to men.

Last edited by chakkra - on 28 August 2025