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curl-6 said:
Chrkeller said:

Probably.  But it would, on paper, be great if Apple, tsmc and nvidia do follow through.  Some big time money.  

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Point being, I think making firm conclusions on tariffs is silly, on both sides.  Until we know how it plays out in full, everyone is speculating mostly on political bias.

I mean we can see it playing out in realtime right in front of us; Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo have all raised their prices in the US since the tariffs came into effect.

All that's being accomplished is that Americans are now paying more for things when they were already in a cost of living crisis.

They didn't all do it at the same time. There's been a fair gap. Remember how SNY raised prices earlier in the gen and MS waited months and months before they followed suit, even though it sounded like they weren't going to? Why wasn't SNY first to move again this time? Why last out of all of them? It makes a lot more sense that SNY knew they could get away with keeping prices as is, yet decided to grab another $50 while they could, plus for investors sake, because they're confident they can get away with it with how things are going for them. We'll see how that turns out.

As others have mentioned:

Nin is just doing Nin, MS doesn't even need XB, SNY is somewhat approaching PS2 market dominance, AMD is stomping Intel, TSMC has PS2 level dominance of the chip fab market. Monopolies are bad for free markets and capitalism, and worse when they're mega corps.

Isn't the price of gas, eggs, etc, all down? Seems like the Gov just went and made moves to shift price increases from some things to others, so I don't exactly see how so many Americans will be super upset over this and necessarily want change.

I also only see the production shift people are talking about happening, staying in or going back to Asia, if the Dems win 2028. However even then, with the back and forth so far, unless the Dems were to win really big, I think plenty of companies are going to get the message and adjust, in favor of the USA, to a degree. If the Reps win in 2028, they're going to just go even harder with this existing plan, and then you're going to see mass adoption of the idea that companies need USA manufacturing, or at least North American. Then it would be at least 2 terms before the Gov starts backing off a bit. So not much relief until 2036 in that case.

Now if this strategy doesn't work, then unless Trumps got something else up his sleeve, maybe, maybe not, hard to say with him, I'd imagine you're going to see the Dems take 2028, and they'll just go right back to where Obama left off in 2016 and continue from there.

Like Chrkeller keeps saying, we'll see if this plan works or not (soon enough).



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