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Vinther1991 said:
Chrkeller said:

SS and Medicare are not handouts.  Most people pay into those programs their entire careers and simply get a portion of their money back.  

Food stamps are not popular nor is medicaid.  Most middle Americans have no issues gutting those programs.  

We will have to agree to disagree because we clearly live in two different words.

And none that changes the fact that 12,000,000 people chose not to endorse Harris....  "because stupid" doesn't explain that massive drop out.  Not aligning with the candidate and not loving liberal policies does explain it. 

I mean how many swing states did harris pickup?  None?  Oh, but that darn Electoral College...  oh wait, she lost the popular vote too.  

Conclusion, the platform is loved isn't logical, full stop.  

Foodstamps have a favorability rating of 70 % (including 53 % among republicans) with only 15 % opposing.

https://www.fmi.org/docs/default-source/facts-about-snap-toolkit/fmi-national-snap-survey_05-07-25.pdf?sfvrsn=edefdedd_1

Medicaid has a favorability rating of 83 %

https://www.kff.org/medicaid/poll-finding/kff-health-tracking-poll-views-of-the-one-big-beautiful-bill/

Harris got 6,265,888 votes less than Joe Biden.

So are you just lying or are you yourself misinformed?

"Not aligning with the candidate and not loving liberal policies does explain it."

What is that supposed to mean? Did Biden not run on a liberal platform?

What we can conclude is that most republicans do support the key social programs/hand-outs, yet voted for a guy who would obviously cut these programs and increase the government hand-outs to Elon Musk and Peter Thiel.

Project 2025 had a 13 % approval rating, the administration is following it 1:1, but somehow managed to convince people pre-election that it had nothing to do with Trump's actual policy, nobody is denying it does now.

In 2016 Trump ran on bringing manufacturing back, didn't happen, then in 2024 he ran on bringing prices down, the opposite is happening.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me a thousand times - hand me a MAGA hat!

Not at all, honest mistake.  Original data was 81 million to 69 million, which is 12 million.  But the data has been since updated to 75 million, thus the accurate number is 6 million, not 12 million.  I am happy to accept the correction.

As for the rest...  agree to disagree. I am not buying the wonderful messaging, fantastic and well supported platform...  and losing at every single level of government.  People weren't any dumber in 2024 than they were in 2020.  It is a nonsensical explanation that reeks of folks on VG being sheep that just accept what their party says with zero independent thought.  



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