Sydney Sweeney does an ad for jeans, media throws a hissy fit

[IcaroRibeiro]

Tober said:

IcaroRibeiro said:

Just to be clear, the people who did not support Harris are also stupid, but for completely different reasons: Apathy. They are not the same group we were discussing earlier. Harris lost 6 million votes compared to Biden, not 12, and those votes did not necessarily go to Trump either. Trump gained 3 million new votes compared to Biden's election, but a large portion of those were first-time voters aged 18–24

Biden won by 65–35, while Harris won by 54–43 a very significant difference. There was a swing to the right, but it was not that substantial. If a person believes social programs are just charity handouts, there's a high chance they have been consistently conservative, right-wing, and voting Republican for quite some time. The main issue was mostly Democrats and independents not voting for Harris, rather than a large swing toward Trump

Edit: There is a group that turned to the right and for Trump though: Latin community, specially latin men. Quite amusing if you ask me, considering how Trump is treating immigrants 

As a non American, I keep being surprised. Did not know Harris won. But perhaps you mean the age group 18-24 only?

The reason more of the latin community voted Trump is logical. People that went through the arduous process in becoming a citizen, which probably took years, do not appreciate others taking a shortcut. It's really that simple. Legal vs. Illegal immigration.

Yes. I meant she won on the 18-24 age group 

For the latin group in question, I believe the absolute majority of the latin voters are not actually naturalized citizens. There is around 8 million naturalized latin americans, while there is 43 million US-born latin-americans 

Sounds to me latin american who went to Trump are in the group of single-issue voters. They are catholic (the second largest statical group to swing right, second the the aforementioned latin men). Since there is a relatively strong connection between latin americans and catholic Americans, and both groups swing right in similar proportion is reasonable to assume they are the same group 

I don't believe this group perceived other latins are evil who want to destroy the country, a non insignificant number of latin US born Americans are in fact children of illegal immigrants

But one thing they really hate with passion is the more secular and liberal culture the dominated the USA media in the last few years. For them LGBT community, specially trans community, feminism, woke culture, Yada Yada are all harmful and they want a leader to take care of them and vanish with the woke mob 

This is the by far the most vile and despicable group of republican voters, and oh boy there are TONS of them. At least a big enough number to push states with huge latin communities even more to the right and give the Republicans, for the first time since the 2004, a win on public vote

Last edited by IcaroRibeiro - on 18 August 2025