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Qwark said:
Chrkeller said:

It amazes me how off base people can be.  Uni in the UK is roughly 10k a year...  State Uni in the US is roughly 10k a year....  the mistake people make is the either compare Uni in the UK to private school in the US.  Or they compare tuition only in the UK to US full room and board.  The cost in Uni between US and UK doesn't exist, that is a myth.  

I also find it funny people talk about "poor" education in the US and all the things we do wrong.  9 out of the top 10 companies on the planet...  are US.  Not sure how the US driving so much innovation when everyone is "poorly" educated.  

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I also find people like Rol funny.  If anybody would know the state of US voters it would be someone who has never been to the US?  Makes sense.  From a talking point perspective liberals have done a terrible job at talking with the average middle American, thus they turned their back on the party.  It is that simple.  Nobody is going to say "gee whiz, I can't afford a house, but we are taking down statues, you got my vote!."  Liberal policies can and often do benefit middle class, they just don't talk about them enough.  

As for healthcare.  I lived in the UK.  My daughter has a serious issue, 6 month wait period to see a specialist...  US, 2 days later.  Sure one is more expensive, but at least in the US I can actually see a doctor.  

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And yeah, I don't want "free" college in the US.  For starters nothing is free.  Secondly I already paid for mine, my wife's and two kids.  How many college educations am I suppose to sponsor?  

In many countries in EU, University costs less than 4k a year. Including NL, France, Germany, Spain, Italy, Poland. Only looking at England, which is by far the most expensive country for studying in Europe. Choosing UK is Cherry picking.

https://www.statista.com/chart/amp/11058/bachelor-tuition-fees-international-comparison/

In a lot of countries Healthcare is readily available, at least in NL, Austria and Germany. I dont know UK that well, but they are far more like US than the rest of Europe. Anyways I get that US is different from EU and that the US doesn't want EU policies.

In my view US would rather elect another Republican like Trump (Vance for next president) than a Europolicy loving democrat. As for innovation the US has something a lot of countries don't investors with balls who buy up promising startups all around the globe.

Only one out of ten has to succeed, and European Investors are for to busy with their status quo and don't dare to take risks. That's how they will eventually lose the car industry.

Let us be fair.  I didn't cherry pick UK.  You specifically mentioned the UK, hence my reply.  

Quoting your original post:  "Making the rich pay more to fix those issues isn't what US wants, because they definitely don't want to be like inferior friendly countries, such as Canada and UK."

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For the record we do agree, the US, especially middle America, has ZERO interest in EU policies.  



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