Sydney Sweeney does an ad for jeans, media throws a hissy fit

[Chrkeller]

Qwark said:

RolStoppable said:

In a two-party system, it is a win for the Democrats.

If people want things to get better, they need to stop being stupid in elections. They need to make left candidates win more often in Democratic primaries, because the current state of the USA is that in the end people choose between conservative politicians (the Democrats) and far-right politicians (the Republicans). Both options lead to redistribution of wealth from the poor to the rich, although at significantly different speeds.

The rise of the far-right (not just in the USA) is fueled by the stupidity of voters. Too many vote further to the right rather than the left when they are dissatisfied with their own financial situation and their most recently selected political party. This behavior has led stupid politicians to play catch-up and move their own policies further to the right because that's how they interpret election results. If voters at large acted rationally rather than emotionally, then it would be very easy for left politicians to win elections. But this isn't the world we live in.

Of the three points that zorg1000 proposed above, only the first one has actual value, provided these young people go for left politics, most notably the redistribution of wealth from the rich to the poor and the middle class. The second point is what the Democrats have campaigned on in 2024 and it didn't work (too reasonable to resonate with the American people). The third point runs into the issue of how widespread racism and white victimhood is in the USA; if such people get to hear that their value is equal to everyone else, they are going to perceive that as oppression like they've done for so long already because they are stupid.

But redistribution of wealth is like the most unamerican thing ever. Focusing on this as the main theme might work in Europe, but I doubt it would work in America. We shouldn't forget that US doesn't want to be like other G20 nations. It is proud of its low taxes system. Even if proper healthcare, good education at the University etc. have become out of reach for most of the population. Making the rich pay more to fix those issues isn't what US wants, because they definitely don't want to be like inferior friendly countries, such as Canada and UK.

It amazes me how off base people can be.  Uni in the UK is roughly 10k a year...  State Uni in the US is roughly 10k a year....  the mistake people make is the either compare Uni in the UK to private school in the US.  Or they compare tuition only in the UK to US full room and board.  The cost in Uni between US and UK doesn't exist, that is a myth.  

I also find it funny people talk about "poor" education in the US and all the things we do wrong.  9 out of the top 10 companies on the planet...  are US.  Not sure how the US driving so much innovation when everyone is "poorly" educated.  

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I also find people like Rol funny.  If anybody would know the state of US voters it would be someone who has never been to the US?  Makes sense.  From a talking point perspective liberals have done a terrible job at talking with the average middle American, thus they turned their back on the party.  It is that simple.  Nobody is going to say "gee whiz, I can't afford a house, but we are taking down statues, you got my vote!."  Liberal policies can and often do benefit middle class, they just don't talk about them enough.  

As for healthcare.  I lived in the UK.  My daughter has a serious issue, 6 month wait period to see a specialist...  US, 2 days later.  Sure one is more expensive, but at least in the US I can actually see a doctor.  

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And yeah, I don't want "free" college in the US.  For starters nothing is free.  Secondly I already paid for mine, my wife's and two kids.  How many college educations am I suppose to sponsor?  

Last edited by Chrkeller - on 15 August 2025