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konnichiwa said:

the-pi-guy said:

Except this isn't happening. 

America has more people in prison than any country in the world, even compared to India and China that have over 3x more people. We are #5 per capita for prisoners. 

Crime rates have been declining over the past few decades. If people think that isn't the case, it's largely due to 24 hour news and social media. People are constantly aware of everything.  

konnichiwa said:

That's fine by me, but let's face it, if it's true that illegal bording crossings are down, if it is true that riots are down in L.A. and if the Oval Office can make the murder/crime rate go down a lot in DC then the Republican Party will be known as the Party that stands for Law and Order and who can be against it? 

It seems the general population wants it and then see Democrats who are against it and try to turn it in to some Race bait thing or sum up how many vacation days Trump took, does it really matter?

Except people largely don't want a police state. 

People tend to be upset when other people are criminals, but they tend to not want the government and the military and the police watching them at all times. 

On some level, you have to pick your priorities and which freedoms you want. 

Do you want privacy or do you want security? Do you want freedom to do what you want, or do you want everything to be policed? 

Ofcourse people don't want a police state but something has to happen.

I mean their are people who wake up and are glad they had no scam call the last few days but have those annoying spam emails tho, does reporting those help? It feels useless but you keep on doing it,  they go outside and bring something with them pepper spray or something else, they check if the inside home camera and doorcam is working.  Then they bring the child to school, sure you wish the child who is 10 can go alone but the streets are not safe.

On your way you can cleary see some people dealing drugs...do you or the other hundreds of drivers report it?  Ofcourse not because the police knows this happens but they barely do anything.   Kids are at school and you finally park the car close to work, you see some addicts on the street, 10 years ago you would not see this but got normalized to it and you don't even want to think how they get money to buy their shit....   you arrive at the shop and say hi to the new extra hire security guard, clients then start complaining about how much stuff is now locked behind glass but you had to do it because so much stuff gets stolen, sometimes the thieves get caught but would return the day after and this is the only solution and it makes you angry....

Plenty of foreign tourists who went to USA, San Franciso, Seattle, Portland, NY, DC and so on will say they had a nice time but also that they are shocked by the homeless camps, drug addicts on the street, security measures in shops, Paris or London are not doing well either but it is a totally different level in some USA states/cities.

Just wondering are you in agreement to a police state.  Do you want the Federal government to have soldiers on every corner, monitoring your every interactions whether private or public for the security that you believe you want.