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thehunter said:

RolStoppable said:

It's right up there. If it hadn't been a cause worth dying for, slavery could not have served as a propaganda tool for Southern leaders.

By the way, there's probably nobody here who disagrees with the argument that Southerners in the Civil War fought for upholding slavery. The only one who tried to argue otherwise was you when you brought up state rights, an old and already exposed lie of the far-right which served the purpose of plausible deniability. That's why it was striking that you let it slip that Southerners viewed slavery as a good moral cause to go to war, because that's the thing you wanted to avoid saying all along.

Look, I don't know if you're just being intellectually dishonest or have comprehension problems but the statement "Lincoln needed it as much as southern leaders to have a moral cause to justify families sending their boys to die" does not mean I believe it was a moral cause, but that Lincoln and southern leaders (the subject of the sentence) did.

Maybe before accusing Americans of "collective stupidity", you might want to consider looking in your own home first.

So your argument is that the continuation of the oppression of the black man was a cause worth dying for for Southerners in the Civil War. It's not something that you think is a good reason to die for, but it was good enough as a moral cause for Southerners back in the day.