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Kyuu on 22 July 2025
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LurkerJ said:
Kyuu said:

PS5 isn't just doing better than Xbox. It killed and buried it. It isn't true that Microsoft wanted to kill Xbox or that it had a coherent direction. Unless Microsoft Store and GamePass take off and compensate for Xbox''s death, moving to PC will prove beneficial mainly to Valve and Steam.

"Trend chasing" also landed Fate Grand Order (likely generated more money than any Nintendo game ever) and Helldivers 2.

"Lack of compelling games" according to who? Helldivers 2, AstroBot and Stellar Blade released last year and were more compelling than any Nintendo game from the same year.

Sony's direction is crystal clear. It's imo risky and bad in the long run coz their PC support is devaluing Playstation, but how is it directionless? Microsoft contradicted themselves and made ridiculous remarks more times than I care to remember.

I don't think we necessarily disagree, the situation in which the Xbox can be unplanned, I am willing to concede here, but does it really matter? 

This is the story of Windows all over again. Microsoft get to make subpar products, tune down any ambitious or unique projects, only innovate in how to squeeze more money out of their user bases, constantly sending out new copycat hardware to the market and not support them long enough because they didn't succeed immediately, and still end up being ahead. Even worse when it comes to the gaming sector, because at least Microsoft was present when the chance to make operating systems for computers was there and were among the first. But when it comes to gaming, Microsoft has been laughably incompetent for decades but here we are. Unfair as it is this is the world we live in, their strategy is working and will continue to work. 

There are enough threads dunking on Xbox and Microsoft at the minute, and there will be a lot more. I'm not interested in that, because Microsoft is just being Microsoft. What's new? What Sony is doing, however, completely baffles me. 

I agree on most of your points. Sony is treading a dangerous path and their glowing financial reports are quite misleading. I actually think their path is so risky, that it's possible that by the time they adjust, it will be too late. No one's going to believe their "exclusives" are truly exclusive unless they commit for a whole generation. I'm pretty sure "no games" will prove more than a meme and damage the brand. Hell, the damage may already be irreversible (we wouldn't know without comparing their current results to how they fared in a different timeline where they never supported PC and other platforms).

Microsoft was all over the place this generation. They chose to brute force their way into relevance via major acquisitions instead of fixing their shit internally. But it looks that they're transforming to a 3rd party publisher mainly, which is good for non-Xbox gamers, so I'm not mad at them. It is sad however that relying on Mojang, Zenimax, and ABK will lead to more layoffs, studio closures, and dead IP's.

MS doesn't seem interested in challenging Sony or Nintendo. They're pretty much partners... for now at least.