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LurkerJ on 22 July 2025
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Kyuu said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:

PS5 is doing better than Xbox, but Xbox's decline seems increasingly deliberate. Since the original intention of the Xbox was to promote PC gaming (and thus Windows as an OS since Microsoft was a total monopoly back then) and PC gaming is both growing fast and thriving in both AAA and all niches, I wonder if they're thinking "Mission accomplished" and moving on to other ventures now. Though some hardware leaks seem to hint at a new Xbox console coming, and they're increasing their presence in the PC handheld market, so wait and see...

SONY on the other hand looks increasingly directionless with the PS5 and PC game releases, lack of compelling games, trend-chasing which lands them such disasters as Concord, the list goes on. While I don't think that either SONY, the PS5 or the PS6 are in any danger, they need to get a grip on the long run and find their own way of doing things just like Nintendo did eons ago to carve out their own piece of gaming lest they'll get drowned and swallowed by a sea of similarities which takes away all the uniqueness that the Playstation has left.

PS5 isn't just doing better than Xbox. It killed and buried it. It isn't true that Microsoft wanted to kill Xbox or that it had a coherent direction. Unless Microsoft Store and GamePass take off and compensate for Xbox''s death, moving to PC will prove beneficial mainly to Valve and Steam.

"Trend chasing" also landed Fate Grand Order (likely generated more money than any Nintendo game ever) and Helldivers 2.

"Lack of compelling games" according to who? Helldivers 2, AstroBot and Stellar Blade released last year and were more compelling than any Nintendo game from the same year.

Sony's direction is crystal clear. It's imo risky and bad in the long run coz their PC support is devaluing Playstation, but how is it directionless? Microsoft contradicted themselves and made ridiculous remarks more times than I care to remember.

I don't think we necessarily disagree, the situation in which the Xbox can be unplanned, I am willing to concede here, but does it really matter? 

This is the story of Windows all over again. Microsoft get to make subpar products, tune down any ambitious or unique projects, only innovate in how to squeeze more money out of their user bases, constantly sending out new copycat hardware to the market and not support them long enough because they didn't succeed immediately, and still end up being ahead. Even worse when it comes to the gaming sector, because at least Microsoft was present when the chance to make operating systems for computers was there and were among the first. But when it comes to gaming, Microsoft has been laughably incompetent for decades but here we are. Unfair as it is this is the world we live in, their strategy is working and will continue to work. 

There are enough threads dunking on Xbox and Microsoft at the minute, and there will be a lot more. I'm not interested in that, because Microsoft is just being Microsoft. What's new? What Sony is doing, however, completely baffles me. 

Last edited by LurkerJ - on 22 July 2025