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| JamesCantu said: Permalite said: “Your God's evils actions according to the Bible: There are two primary reasons why your argument is invalid: First, you are conflating “murder†and “killing.†Both refer to the taking of life. But murder involves the killing of INNOCENT blood (e.g., abortion). That is always wrong, and God would never do that. Killing, on the other hand, can refer to justice, and it is not necessarily wrong. Examples of moral killing include capital punishment for a convicted criminal, individual self-defense when someone breaks into your home, national defense when the Allies fought against Hitler & the Nazis, and divine judgment by God upon sinful mankind. We see examples in the Bible of all of these. God cleansed the antediluvian earth via the global Flood, and He used the Israelites as His instrument to judge the evil inhabitants of Canaan. This is not “murder.†It’s divine judgment. Genesis 6:5-7 states, “The Lord saw how great the wickedness of the human race had become on the earth, and that every inclination of the thoughts of the human heart was only evil all the time. The Lord regretted that he had made human beings on the earth, and his heart was deeply troubled. So the Lord said, ‘I will wipe from the face of the earth the human race  I have created – and with them the animals, the birds and the creatures that move along the ground – for I regret that I have made them.’†Second, you are not making a distinction between “descriptive†and “prescriptive†language in the Bible. Descriptive language is merely describing accurately a historical event. God is not necessarily saying we must engage in that activity. Prescriptive language, on the other hand, like the Ten Commandments or Sermon on the Mount, are indeed rules that the believer should follow. 1 Chronicles 21:1-8 (abridged) states, “Satan rose up against Israel and incited David to take a census of Israel. So David said to Joab, ‘Go and count the Israelites.’ But Joab relied, ‘Why does my lord want to do this? Why should he bring guilt on Israel?’ The king’s word, however, overruled Joab. This command was evil in the sight of God; so he punished Israel. Then David said to God, ‘I have sinned greatly by doing this. Now, I beg you, take away the guilt of your servant. I have done a very foolish thing.’†This passage describes (not prescribes) the evil actions of Satan and King David. Nowhere does it reprimand God. And I fail to see how God is evil based on this passage. If anything, it contrasts the holiness of God with the sinfulness of mankind.  |
So am I to understand that these two justifications deal with all the issues in the bible. For examples 1 Samuel 15 where God commands the Israelites to kill noncombatants?
"1 Samuel said to Saul, “I am the one the Lord sent to anoint you king over his people Israel; so listen now to the message from the Lord. 2 This is what the Lord Almighty says: ‘I will punish the Amalekites for what they did to Israel when they waylaid them as they came up from Egypt. 3 Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.’”"
How do you think the above is justified? Seems like your answer is going to be that it is be definition not a killing of "innocent blood" because God decided they weren't innocent (even the infants) but you have to understand that it's a pretty unsatisfying answer from a non-believer point of view. You seem to be defining terms to give God a pass. Most would define murder as unjustifiable killing of another human being and killing children and infants would definitely fall into that category.
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