Permalite said:
“Your God's evils actions according to the Bible:
* Tried to murder all life on Earth. - Noahs Flood.
* Killed 70,000 people with a plague because David ordered a census on the people. - Chronicles 21.
* God Destroys 60 cities so other people could live there, orders the death of innocent women and children. - Deuteronomy 3.
* God orders the murder of all the people of Jabesh-gilead, except for the virgin girls who were taken to be forcibly raped and married. - Judges 21.
* God of the Bible also allows slavery, including selling your own daughter as a sex slave. - Exodus 21.
* Child Abuse. - Judges 11:29.
* Bashing babies against rocks. - Hosea 13:16 & Psalms 137:9.
* Sacrificing of peoples children. - Genesis 22:1.
Yes. Your God is truly amazing and "good". (In reality your God according to the Bible is a genocidal maniac with no regard for human life or decency.)”
There are two primary reasons why your argument is invalid:
First, you are conflating “murder” and “killing.” Both refer to the taking of life. But murder involves the killing of INNOCENT blood (e.g., abortion). That is always wrong, and God would never do that. Killing, on the other hand, can refer to justice, and it is not necessarily wrong. Examples of moral killing include capital punishment for a convicted criminal, individual self-defense when someone breaks into your home, national defense when the Allies fought against Hitler & the Nazis, and divine judgment by God upon sinful mankind. We see examples in the Bible of all of these. God cleansed the antediluvian earth via the global Flood, and He used the Israelites as His instrument to judge the evil inhabitants of Canaan. This is not “murder.” It’s divine judgment. Genesis 6:5-7 states, “The Lord saw how great the wickedness of the human race had become on the earth, and that every inclination of the thoughts of the human heart was only evil all the time. The Lord regretted that he had made human beings on the earth, and his heart was deeply troubled. So the Lord said, ‘I will wipe from the face of the earth the human race I have created – and with them the animals, the birds and the creatures that move along the ground – for I regret that I have made them.’”
Second, you are not making a distinction between “descriptive” and “prescriptive” language in the Bible. Descriptive language is merely describing accurately a historical event. God is not necessarily saying we must engage in that activity. Prescriptive language, on the other hand, like the Ten Commandments or Sermon on the Mount, are indeed rules that the believer should follow. 1 Chronicles 21:1-8 (abridged) states, “Satan rose up against Israel and incited David to take a census of Israel. So David said to Joab, ‘Go and count the Israelites.’ But Joab relied, ‘Why does my lord want to do this? Why should he bring guilt on Israel?’ The king’s word, however, overruled Joab. This command was evil in the sight of God; so he punished Israel. Then David said to God, ‘I have sinned greatly by doing this. Now, I beg you, take away the guilt of your servant. I have done a very foolish thing.’” This passage describes (not prescribes) the evil actions of Satan and King David. Nowhere does it reprimand God. And I fail to see how God is evil based on this passage. If anything, it contrasts the holiness of God with the sinfulness of mankind.
I don’t have the space to address all of your examples, but they are easily refuted. In fact, of all of your posts in this thread, I have not found one single compelling or convincing argument for atheism. You spew a lot of vulgar ad-hominem invective, but that is not evidence. You address strawman arguments that no one is making (e.g., Christians are anti-science. We are not anti-science; we are anti false scientific conclusions). You state opinions, without any supporting evidence, and pass them off as facts. You lump all religions & followers together, as if they were a monolith. You make non-sequitur arguments left & right. You don’t have the first clue about what the Bible teaches or says, yet you pass yourself off as some kind of expert. And you repeatedly make self-defeating statements (e.g., God is not moral), when the concept of “morality” is something atheists have to steal from God in order to attempt to prove His non-existence!
All I see when I look at your posts is your typical garden-variety angry, hateful atheist who is steeped in a life of sin. The Apostle Paul pegged atheists such as Permalite/Ryuu/Svenno perfectly when he wrote in Romans 1:18-32 (under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, so these are the very words of God): “The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse. For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles. Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen. Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error. Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy. Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.”
